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My son at Aspen Ranch
thomasC:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---You need to look at each program separately. Some programs have therapists on staff and others do not. Some of the ones who do not have therapists on staff provide therapy from an outside source (independent) and you pay them separately. But the services are provided on site (within the programs grounds)
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So, we are all in agreement. The only 'therapy' provided is optional and at the parents' expense. The program itself does not constitute 'therapy' in any form and this has been successfully argued in court by Aspen.
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You have to look at it on a program by program bases. Some may have therapists on staff and provide one on one therapy as an integral part of the program and other programs may out source the individual therapy and treat it as optional.
Not all kids need the one on one, some may do well with only group therapy.
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You continue to use the word therapy. The program claims it is not therapy. Stop calling it that.
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---You need to look at each program separately. Some programs have therapists on staff and others do not. Some of the ones who do not have therapists on staff provide therapy from an outside source (independent) and you pay them separately. But the services are provided on site (within the programs grounds)
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So, we are all in agreement. The only 'therapy' provided is optional and at the parents' expense. The program itself does not constitute 'therapy' in any form and this has been successfully argued in court by Aspen.
--- End quote ---
You have to look at it on a program by program bases. Some may have therapists on staff and provide one on one therapy as an integral part of the program and other programs may out source the individual therapy and treat it as optional.
Not all kids need the one on one, some may do well with only group therapy.
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You continue to use the word therapy. The program claims it is not therapy. Stop calling it that.
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You need to look at each program independently. Some programs provide individual therapy and others may not. Some have therapists on staff and others outsource their individual therapist and psychologists.
This is why I suggest that parents understand what the costs are up front and whether or not they feel their child will need individual therapy. The advantage of having a therapist which is outsourced (not on staff) is that this therapist can gain a perspective which is independent of the program and if they feel the program is not effective for the individual child then they can relay this information back to the parents or to the childs therapist at home.
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NIGEL:
There is obviously a lot of debate here concerning "therapy." I will not join the debate, but I will say that any parent that sends their kid to the Aspen Ranch (or any other school in kind) should do as much research as possible. The biggest question all parents want answered is, "is this the right decision?" I am not going to nitpick about what is "therapy" and what is not. My son got "therapy" at Aspen Ranch. We paid for a therapist to meet with him. Aspen Ranch had a "therapist" on staff that met with him twice a week. I am not a lawyer and I am not going to argue what constitutes a "therapist." I will say that my son got help while at the Aspen Ranch. Was he also suppervised by people that didn't have a positive influence on him--yes. Did he spend time with people that only wanted the best for him---yes. Parents send their kids to places like Aspen Ranch only as a last resort. I am still wrestling whether or not places like this are the best option. I am not sure whether or not I will ever have the answer, but I will say that it doesn't do my family any good to dwell on that. We are moving forward.
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "NIGEL" ---There is obviously a lot of debate here concerning "therapy." I will not join the debate, but I will say that any parent that sends their kid to the Aspen Ranch (or any other school in kind) should do as much research as possible. The biggest question all parents want answered is, "is this the right decision?" I am not going to nitpick about what is "therapy" and what is not. My son got "therapy" at Aspen Ranch. We paid for a therapist to meet with him. Aspen Ranch had a "therapist" on staff that met with him twice a week. I am not a lawyer and I am not going to argue what constitutes a "therapist." I will say that my son got help while at the Aspen Ranch. Was he also supervised by people that didn't have a positive influence on him--yes. Did he spend time with people that only wanted the best for him---yes. Parents send their kids to places like Aspen Ranch only as a last resort. I am still wrestling whether or not places like this are the best option. I am not sure whether or not I will ever have the answer, but I will say that it doesn't do my family any good to dwell on that. We are moving forward.
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Thank you very much, Nigel. It seems folks here that have no personal knowledge at all, argue the most. They read reports that I doubt they really understand and give their inept opinions based on their biased views. I don't argue with them either, they are ignorant.
Now!!!!! Can everyone else move on.
Whooter:
Art therapy
Feminist therapy
Biofeedback therapy
Cognitive therapy
Family therapy
Dream analysis therapy
Psychoanalytical therapy
Transactional analysis therapy
Rational emotive therapy
Behavior therapy
Group therapy
Gestalt therapy
Humanistic therapy
Play therapy
Postmodern therapy
Eye movement desensitization reprocessing therapy
Speech therapy
Preventative therapy
Prophylactic therapy
Abortive therapy
Supportive therapy
Pharmacotherapy
Chemotherapy
Mesotherapy
Gene therapy
Aurotherapy
Chrysotherapy
Hormone therapy
Biotherapy
Virotherapy
Phage therapy
Maggot therapy
Ozontherapy
Speleotherapy
Serotherapy
Hydrotherapy
Electrotherapy
Psychotherapy
Physical therapy
Cryotherapy
Thermotherapy
Radiotherapy
Physiotherapy
Massotherapy
Cymatic therapy
Phototherapy
Magnet therapy
Radiation therapy
……………………………….. Just to name a few and if none of them work then sometimes the best therapy is sitting under a magnolia tree in late spring and watching the sun set….. self therapy?
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