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Anonymous:
Many kids have been killed by Aspen Ed Group programs.  If you want to have the best chance of your kid staying alive and getting help, stay away from any AEG program.  They have a legacy of killing children in the name of 'helping' them.

TheWho:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Many kids have been killed by Aspen Ed Group programs.  If you want to have the best chance of your kid staying alive and getting help, stay away from any AEG program.  They have a legacy of killing children in the name of 'helping' them.
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Typically when statments like this are made without any evidence it is just the opposite.  In this particular case I know it to be the opposite.  Do you have a link to any statistics that support this?  Do you know how many kids kids each year who are attending public school?  Kids whose parents could not afford or decided against getting their children help?  The number of kids who die in programs is just a small fraction of those killed in public school.  This websight would crash if we printed the non-program kids and discussed each of them each time one died.

Anonymous:
Matthew Meyer      Lone Star Expeditions

Rocco Magliozzi   12   SUWS

Name Unknown      Aspen Achievement Academy   Suicide-hanging

Brendan James Blum   14   Youth Care (& Pine Ridge Academy)

Sergey Blashchishena   16   Sagewalk


RIP boys.

TheWho:
The reason fornits lights up so much when a child die is because it is such a rarity and doesn happen too often.  Just to place it in perspective:

One American dies in a hospital from a medical error or a lethal infection every 6 minutes  =  90,000 per year

One American killed by a traffic accident every 12 minutes = 43,443 per year

One American accidentally poisoned to death every 27 minutes = 19,457 per year

One American killed in an accident at home every 29 minutes =18,048 per year

One American killed in a fall every 31 minutes = 17,227 per year

One American killed by a drunk driver every 31 minutes = 16,885 per year

One American murdered every 32 minutes = 16,137 per year

One American drowned every 159 minutes = 3,306 per year

psy:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---The reason fornits lights up so much when a child die is because it is such a rarity and doesn happen too often.  Just to place it in perspective:
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You're doing the math wrong.

It's (#ProgramDeathsYearX / #KidsInProgramYearX) compared to (#PublicSchoolDeathsYearX / #KidsInPublicSchoolYearX).  I'd wager the likelyhood of death in a program is a lot higher than the likelihood of death in a public school or elsewhere.  Sadly, there are NO statistics on this so my guess is as good as anybody else's.  Kids DO die in programs, however, and what's really shocking isn't so much the fact that they died, but how they died and how their last days were spent (often with bruises all over their bodies, scars, untreated sores, etc...).

Even still the whole death debate misses the point that the kids who survive generally end up pretty messed up.  Just ask around the MySpace or Facebook pages for any particular program.

Again.  Any parent considering an apsen program should check out the Time Magazine Article on Mount Bachelors describing aspen's LifeSteps and decide whether they think that's really healthy for their child.

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