Greg and psy, I don't know either of you, but I respectfully request you take your discussion elsewhere. You're bringing the rest of us down. Just when we were starting to have fun, psy comes back from vacation and wanders around our forum. The last few days here have been the most fun I've had reading the "minority" bonding and unitarily going up against the Stone trolls.
Can't you two PM or e-mail off-site for your discussion? Please?