Hidden Lake Academy - ORS Reports

[Anonymous]

Less thread derailment, more massive excerpts.

People, it's going to spew bullshit no matter what. Talking to it is a complete waste of time. There is no purpose whatsoever that can be served by acknowledging its existence. Focus on ripping Len Buccellato's shit. Phone calls to ORS, for example, might be happy and fun.

The experts don't show up on my screen! All of Jill's 'quotes' come up as empty boxes.

Anyone else having this problem?

[TheWho]

Less thread derailment, more massive excerpts.

People, it's going to spew bullshit no matter what. Talking to it is a complete waste of time. There is no purpose whatsoever that can be served by acknowledging its existence. Focus on ripping Len Buccellato's shit. Phone calls to ORS, for example, might be happy and fun.

Since Bruce has been reduced to mostly guest posting now he is posting more and antagonizing the other posters.

[Troll Control]

This is what I wrote towards the end of my post:
Also, for the record, I need to correct this, the ORS document stated there were 5 attempted suicides not 8, that the ORS was aware of, 8 runaways(there were more), numerous transports for mental health (1013?)

This was part of a reply:

I am curious about the 1,000 trips for mental health. Does this seem like a lot to you (or to the readers here)? I would like to hear other peoples opinion on this.

II. DEFINITIONS:
Licensed Mental Health Professional: A mental health professional who holds a license that
authorizes him/her to complete an Emergency Admission Certificate (Form 1013). Current
Georgia statutes authorize physicians, psychologists, clinical social workers, and clinical nurse
specialists in psychiatric/mental health to certify emergency admissions.



For you to understand what a "1013" is in reference to a patient, in these cases, children that were "1013'nd" at HLA.  Not 1,000 children transported for mental health.  If you are referring children to these places  you should know this.

Jill, none of you quotes show up on screen. Is this just my computer or are other people seeing her quoted material?

Jillie, the quoted text goes between the the quote brackets.  First "

" then your quoted material, then "

".  Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Thanks.

[Troll Control]

Recap: TheWho has never seen any report but claims to be an expert on ORS reports based on an anon comment.

HLA has amassed another giant stack of ORS violations since 2007, but TheWho is lazy/cheap and won't request them, so he makes up some more "data."  That's the recap.

Thanks for the recap!

[Anonymous]

Hey DJ, post some damn details already. Use another thread, this one's polluted.

[Troll Control]

Some things the ORS missed on HLA's inspections (from another thread):

some things you might not know:

At HLA, Max was constantly insisting to me and a number of other people that his mom's death was caused deliberately by his father. not murder per se, but as an indirect result of his dad's actions. i'm not revealing the details.  

Max also smoked quite a bit of weed with me at HLA. i smuggled it in a variety of ways - in special deoderant, my shoes, through staff, and freinds that would dead-drop the stuff on the property in the middle of the night for me to pick up the next day while on restrictions or doing activities. we'd smoke it under the desks using the ol' fabric softener in a toilet paper tube method, in the bathroom at lower left or we'd just sneak away either at lower left or by the lake into the woods. it was really easy, after 05' there was a total lack of staff supervision and it just got better for us when the lawsuit hit. other kids snuck in all sorts of stuff, but i must admire max for staying away from it: coke smuggled in vaginas and anuses, meth and LSD sprayed onto pages of books, ecstacy smuggled inside stuffed animals and shoes, some kid even brought tar heroin once, flattened down to look like the rubber underlining of his shoe sole. that kid ate most of it but was able to steal a syringe from a diabetic and a lighter from me near the end of his stash. staff are just oblivious.  


on another point, there are plenty of kids who stayed there much longer than two years. everytime a peergroup is graduating the counselors try to convince all the parents to keep the kid postgrad untill they graduate high school. every kid's parents are talked to, in the hopes of retaining at least one or two from every peer group. why? because keeping postgrads around costs less as they require less supervision and less therapy; they are "positives" to the rest of the gen pop, yet the school collects just as money for keeping them. counselors as a result get bonuses for every kid they retain postgrad. i know kids that were stuck for a 27 month program and then stayed postgrad anyway. (27 months - it was originally 21 months but then HLA cancelled december graduation and forced those kids to graduate six months later). i know a kid that has spent nearly forty months at HLA.  steven gioa.

I'm not sure if they still do postgrad, but it's very likely max reuben spent all that time at HLA. he got there, from what i remember, in 8th grade. facing the prospect of an HLA grad entering 11th grade in a regular school (THE sex and drugs year according to HLA) he could have been there that long easily.

[Troll Control]

I'm setting to work on these docs presently and have lined up some help to parse them for content.  I now really need someone willing to host n' post the docs.  Anyone want to volunteer to host the docs and link to them at Fornits?  Thanks!

[TheWho]

some things you might not know:

At HLA, Max was constantly insisting to me and a number of other people that his mom's death was caused deliberately by his father. not murder per se, but as an indirect result of his dad's actions. i'm not revealing the details.  

Max also smoked quite a bit of weed with me at HLA. i smuggled it in a variety of ways - in special deoderant, my shoes, through staff, and freinds that would dead-drop the stuff on the property in the middle of the night for me to pick up the next day while on restrictions or doing activities. we'd smoke it under the desks using the ol' fabric softener in a toilet paper tube method, in the bathroom at lower left or we'd just sneak away either at lower left or by the lake into the woods. it was really easy, after 05' there was a total lack of staff supervision and it just got better for us when the lawsuit hit. other kids snuck in all sorts of stuff, but i must admire max for staying away from it: coke smuggled in vaginas and anuses, meth and LSD sprayed onto pages of books, ecstacy smuggled inside stuffed animals and shoes, some kid even brought tar heroin once, flattened down to look like the rubber underlining of his shoe sole. that kid ate most of it but was able to steal a syringe from a diabetic and a lighter from me near the end of his stash. staff are just oblivious.  


on another point, there are plenty of kids who stayed there much longer than two years. everytime a peergroup is graduating the counselors try to convince all the parents to keep the kid postgrad untill they graduate high school. every kid's parents are talked to, in the hopes of retaining at least one or two from every peer group. why? because keeping postgrads around costs less as they require less supervision and less therapy; they are "positives" to the rest of the gen pop, yet the school collects just as money for keeping them. counselors as a result get bonuses for every kid they retain postgrad. i know kids that were stuck for a 27 month program and then stayed postgrad anyway. (27 months - it was originally 21 months but then HLA cancelled december graduation and forced those kids to graduate six months later). i know a kid that has spent nearly forty months at HLA.  steven gioa.

I'm not sure if they still do postgrad, but it's very likely max reuben spent all that time at HLA. he got there, from what i remember, in 8th grade. facing the prospect of an HLA grad entering 11th grade in a regular school (THE sex and drugs year according to HLA) he could have been there that long easily.

A friend of Max wrote:
when people are angry at other people, they can make things up. max was angry at his dad for sending him to a school that robbed him of his youth and closure with his mother. It is equally as likely that he was directing his anger towards his dad and making things up, as it is that his dad was actually involved in his mother's death.

[Troll Control]

That doesn't rule out anything.  Max may well believe his father did his mother in.  And, he may have.  What we know for sure is that Max didn't "get closure with his mom" because he wasn't allowed to go to her funeral or to visit her while she was dying.

HLA and his father stole his youth, something he'll never get back.  Like his mom.

Did his mom ever come to HLA?  Was she in favor of his placement, or was John the sole driver of the process?  What was his mom's cause of death?

[TheWho]

That doesn't rule out anything.  Max may well believe his father did his mother in.  And, he may have.  What we know for sure is that Max didn't "get closure with his mom" because he wasn't allowed to go to her funeral or to visit her while she was dying.

HLA and his father stole his youth, something he'll never get back.  Like his mom.

Did his mom ever come to HLA?  Was she in favor of his placement, or was John the sole driver of the process?  What was his mom's cause of death?

No it doesnt rule anything out,  but it does come from someone who knew Max very well.  We dont know if Max went to his mothers funeral or not.  The mother may have been the main driver behind his placement.  If he didnt go it might had been Maxs choice not to go seeing she placed him there.  There are many unknowns.

[Anonymous]

I'm setting to work on these docs presently and have lined up some help to parse them for content.  I now really need someone willing to host n' post the docs.  Anyone want to volunteer to host the docs and link to them at Fornits?  Thanks!

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[Anonymous]

I'm setting to work on these docs presently and have lined up some help to parse them for content.  I now really need someone willing to host n' post the docs.  Anyone want to volunteer to host the docs and link to them at Fornits?  Thanks!

DJ call me...I am not sure you are getting my emails...

[Lacey]

Jill do you still have my email?

[juniper2]

Jill do you still have my email?

Hi Lacey.. No I do not, you can  still PM me at Juniper2