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RobertBruce:

--- Quote ---So 3,000 pages is meaningless unless we know what the average is… where will our kids feel safe and where is the best place for them. We need to find answers to these questions.
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Then by all means, provide something from the public sector we can compare it to.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---So 3,000 pages is meaningless unless we know what the average is… where will our kids feel safe and where is the best place for them. We need to find answers to these questions.
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I dunno about other people, but personally I'd like a place with zero violations like my local school district and my local in/outpatient facilities.

Why would anyone be so stupid as to ask if 3000 pages "is more than average"?  Who cares?  It's hundreds and hundreds of violations.

TheWho:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---So 3,000 pages is meaningless unless we know what the average is… where will our kids feel safe and where is the best place for them. We need to find answers to these questions.
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I dunno about other people, but personally I'd like a place with zero violations like my local school district and my local in/outpatient facilities.

Why would anyone be so stupid as to ask if 3000 pages "is more than average"?  Who cares?  It's hundreds and hundreds of violations.
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Good luck finding a place with zero violations.  I went thru 6 pages of schools in the state of Georgia and there were not any.  You might want to consider home schooling... oh but you would need to get rid of your microwave because if your kid heated up some urine or tied a sibling up with rope you would be considered a highly abusive household.

Troll Control:
My local school district has zero violations.  Neither do my local outpatient or inpatient facilities.  

As for Georgia schools, you'll have to post what you've found, as it sounds very suspicious.

The main point here is that HLA is dangerous, unsafe, untherapeutic and run in an illegal manner.  This is well-documented.  So I don't care how HLA ranks in a continuum of "TBS's" because all I have to do is take a five minute perusal of HLA's case file to know I would never, ever place any kid there for any reason.  It's really that simple.  I don't care which of these facilities is worse or "less bad" because if it's at all "bad" I wouldn't send any kid there.  Why would I?  My local school is safe and my local clinics are safe and my local hospitals are safe.  Why roll the dice and hope my kid is one who doesn't get abused.

And as far as the other items you listed, urine and microwaves don't make a place unsafe.  Taking kids that microwave urine until it boils and throw it in a sleeping kid's face because the only "supervision" is a camera is what makes HLA unsafe.  Also ty-wraps don't make a place unsafe, but taking kids who will bind other kids hand-and-foot while they beat the shit out of them with no supervision is what makes HLA unsafe.  Get it now?

HLA take dangerous kids, mixes them together with more-or-less normal kids and walks away, allowing the kids to make the rules and determine "justice" and this is what makes HLA so very dangerous for kids.  It's really not that deep.

Face the facts: HLA is a dangerous, poorly run facility.  No amount of arguing or deflecting will change that.  You spent years trying to tell everyone that these problems never happened or that HLA had fixed them.  Everyone now sees you were not telling the truth and that instead of fighting against a place that has been confirmed to break the law and hurt kids you try to mask the problems, thusly allowing more kids to be hurt and abused.  What you are doing by trying to muddy the waters is wrong and you are contributing to more children being hurt.  I guess you really don't care as long as HLA can still make money.  

It's sad that you show no care or concern for those who have been hurt and you actively campaign to allow HLA to continue this way.  This thread really shows your true colors.

TheWho:
I am playing the devils advocate.  I havent nor would I send my kid to HLA for a variety of reasons.  But lets say we handed the stack of 3,000 pages to Len or whatever the owners name is.. let him select a few tidbits or line items and explain them in his own way.  Would you accept that and do you think the readers would get a fair view of HLA?

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