Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
Troll Control:
Uh, they wouldn't give any of this information to Jill. In fact, they lied about all of it. This means they didn't want anyone to know. If HLA did want Jill to know, why did they not give her the records? The whole point, Whooter, is that it cost her $700k, lots of lawyers and many years to get the info. This is just an example of how HLA and other facilities hide the truth. Do me a favor, give HLA a call, tape the call and ask them to give you all the information they have about crimes committed on campus and suicide attempts. Then play us the tape that says "none of that has ever happened here" just like you'd have parents believe, Whooter. Why don't you just ask Jill instead of asking DJ to explain Jill's experiences? Do your own busywork.
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "truthtroller" ---FYI to everyone - a legal complaint does not make its accusations a fact. The e-mail contents of one person does not make the contents fact. Both have written rebuttals. Where are the rebuttals, here? Fornits is famous for quoting one side of an arguement, using hearsay as fact, or using other hearsay websites as sources of evidence. Be forewarned, don't expect good critical analyses on a Fornits website.
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Thank you Thruthtroller. I have been fighting the one sided postings for quite some time now in an attempt to expose the truth.
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Yes, Whooter, you've been ignorantly fighting one-sided posts by saying "There's no evidence and Robert is a liar." Jill has proved Robert is not a liar and that the ORS and local police have thousands of pages of documents related to crimes and suicide attemps at HLA. you just conveniently leave out what many of us have known here for years. You might be the only one "who" hasn't actually read the documents, so you're the ignoramus saying it's not true. I guess LCSO and ORS lied to Jill to make HLA look bad, huh?
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---Adjudicated children: There were a number of children who had been convicted of a crime and were sentenced to probation rather than jail time, part of that probation requirement was that they enroll and complete a program like HLA. Those adjudicated children that were remanded to HLA, kept a probation officer
and met with them throughtout their stay at HLA and were not appropriate for HLA's program. A letter was required from HLA to their probation officer stating the date of enrollment and date of projected completion. The child must then complete the program to fulfill his probation requirements. According to
documents I received, there was only one child that left HLA to fulfill jail time, then returned to complete HLA's program. There were children that were found guilty of blowing up a car, shooting out parent's window, incest, misdemeamor felonies, etc. This does not include psychiatric diagnosis of pedophilia, schizophrenia,bulemia, or any other 'patient' anomalies that were enrolled at HLA, per HLA tending psychiatrists reports. Again, if you wish to research this, there is a form you may fill out with the ORS under "Georgia's Sunshine Laws" which grants public access, thus to their reports on HLA(the hidden ones). The managing attorney for the ORS is Nina Edidin. According to Nina Edidin, at the time, she stated, she 'thought' in her letter to my attorney that the ORS only kept files for 2 years, but as we re-stated, we were fortunate that the request was under two years. Miraculously documents dated back to 1998, 2001, etc. appeared. A letter will not suffice as it took a year and a half seeking ORS compliance as a citizen, and only after a private attorney representing me, stepped in, did I receive actual investigative reports, including inter-office emails of all parties, including Assistant District Attorney Mark Cicero. Note: I was repeatedly told by the ORS that they did not understand what I was requesting. The ORS is shut tight to protect themselves where HLA is concerned and it is no different with LCSO as the ORS found in their investigation. What goes around, comes around. The cost is just over $700.00 and you shall receive paper documents, sloppily re-dacted, somewhere between 2500- 2900 pages. One may do the same with LCSO, there you will find the 911 calls within a short period of time 8 attempted suicides, 'Life flight', 5 run-aways, rape, etc. (co-operation, again is limited). The 911 call logs were also passed out during a Lumpkin County Board meeting re: Mountain Brook Academy. One may be able to call the Lumpkin County Board and ask for a copy of them.
These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states and unfortunately more regarding the politics in Georgia. Protection under the Law only seems to relate to Georgia's governing agencies covering their own arces as apparent throughout the ORS report.
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Thank you for posting this, Jill. It serves as an object lesson that HLA (and other programs) will do whatever they can to preclude this information from becoming public. If you'd like to send me copies of what you received, I'd be glad to scan the docs and make them (more) public.
I hope Mr. Reuben is reading this, as he enrolled his son at HLA while these events were transpiring. Either he didn't do his due diligence, or he didn't care about what he saw. In either case, a parent should ask themselves "Do I want John Reuben making decisions for my family?"
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QFT.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states...
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I see...So it has been TheWho lying for some four plus years and NOT Robert after all.
Shame on you, Who, for lying about HLA and about RobertBruce. TheWho is a liar. And he's caught again. And Robert is vindicated (again).
TheWho:
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--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states...
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I see...So it has been TheWho lying for some four plus years and NOT Robert after all.
Shame on you, Who, for lying about HLA and about RobertBruce. TheWho is a liar. And he's caught again. And Robert is vindicated (again).
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Oh come on Bruce log-in, quit trolling again.
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