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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #225 on: September 18, 2009, 07:09:14 PM »
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Ridiculous.  Even Ken fucking Huey posted here.  John IS posting here, formerly under the name TheWho, and now as an anon.  He will never confront anyone at this site, because to do so would be to admit he's TheWho and then there would be no deniability for TheWho's awful and stupid commentary here.  It would drive a stake thru the heart of his cash cow.  So he continues to post anon.  It ain't that deep.  If any of this was UNTRUE, he'd be suing, guaranteed.  Or at the very least denying.  That ain't happening.

Yeah, If John Reuben was not theWho he would have sued by now.

Obviously, there are reasons people decide not to pursue libel suits for the printing of negative, nonfactual info about themselves, but none of them are present in this case.

He could prove he is not thwho simply, cheaply, and conclusively through legal means. And to sue for libel he wouldn't need to prove financial loss
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #226 on: September 18, 2009, 07:12:22 PM »
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Ridiculous.  Even Ken fucking Huey posted here.  John IS posting here, formerly under the name TheWho, and now as an anon.  He will never confront anyone at this site, because to do so would be to admit he's TheWho and then there would be no deniability for TheWho's awful and stupid commentary here.  It would drive a stake thru the heart of his cash cow.  So he continues to post anon.  It ain't that deep.  If any of this was UNTRUE, he'd be suing, guaranteed.  Or at the very least denying.  That ain't happening.

So if you post something about someone here on the forum and it goes unchallenged then it becomes fact?  Hmmm.  So we can conclude that Ajax13 is guilty of abusing his son sexually as has been posted several times here.  He never denied any of the postings.  (We all assume it is true anyway, but since he never denied any of it we can conclude it is factual)

Thewho is a nice guy and tells the truth about everything.  So now we wait and if thewho doesnt deny this statement then it becomes factual.  Interesting rules.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #227 on: September 18, 2009, 08:02:13 PM »
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Ridiculous.  Even Ken fucking Huey posted here.  John IS posting here, formerly under the name TheWho, and now as an anon.  He will never confront anyone at this site, because to do so would be to admit he's TheWho and then there would be no deniability for TheWho's awful and stupid commentary here.  It would drive a stake thru the heart of his cash cow.  So he continues to post anon.  It ain't that deep.  If any of this was UNTRUE, he'd be suing, guaranteed.  Or at the very least denying.  That ain't happening.

Yeah, If John Reuben was not theWho he would have sued by now.

Obviously, there are reasons people decide not to pursue libel suits for the printing of negative, nonfactual info about themselves, but none of them are present in this case.

He could prove he is not thwho simply, cheaply, and conclusively through legal means. And to sue for libel he wouldn't need to prove financial loss

That's true, but he won't do it.  Why?  Because there would be a subpoena for this website's records by the defendant to prove what s/he says is true, that thewho is John Rueben.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #228 on: September 18, 2009, 08:12:52 PM »
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Ridiculous.  Even Ken fucking Huey posted here.  John IS posting here, formerly under the name TheWho, and now as an anon.  He will never confront anyone at this site, because to do so would be to admit he's TheWho and then there would be no deniability for TheWho's awful and stupid commentary here.  It would drive a stake thru the heart of his cash cow.  So he continues to post anon.  It ain't that deep.  If any of this was UNTRUE, he'd be suing, guaranteed.  Or at the very least denying.  That ain't happening.

So if you post something about someone here on the forum and it goes unchallenged then it becomes fact?  Hmmm.  So we can conclude that Ajax13 is guilty of abusing his son sexually as has been posted several times here.  He never denied any of the postings.  (We all assume it is true anyway, but since he never denied any of it we can conclude it is factual)

Thewho is a nice guy and tells the truth about everything.  So now we wait and if thewho doesnt deny this statement then it becomes factual.  Interesting rules.

So since Ajax hasnt tried to sue fornits its pretty clear that he has been abusing his kid sexually.  We all saw the postings and the laws.  Why would he just let it go like that without any denial if it were not true?
He is a sick person and he should be trying to get his son help instead of covering it up.  Does anyone know him?  Can they contact him directly and see if they could reason with him outside of this website?  At least try for the kids sake.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #229 on: September 18, 2009, 08:30:05 PM »
Use ajax's real name while saying he molests his son, and see what happens.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #230 on: September 18, 2009, 08:35:27 PM »
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Use ajax's real name while saying he molests his son, and see what happens.

No one knows anyones name here.  We are only guessing that thewho is John Reuben.  No one knows for sure.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #231 on: September 18, 2009, 08:41:17 PM »
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Use ajax's real name while saying he molests his son, and see what happens.

He couldnt sue anyway because if he tried then the authorities would have to investigate the allegations to prove validity and then after they talked to his son (without Ajax in the room) he would end up in jail when his son told the police what goes on at night.  So there would not be any lawsuit.  Thats why he is laying low on this one.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #232 on: September 18, 2009, 08:46:52 PM »
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Use ajax's real name while saying he molests his son, and see what happens.

No one knows anyones name here.  We are only guessing that thewho is John Reuben.  No one knows for sure.

No. It's been said positively, John. You are the Who.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #233 on: September 18, 2009, 08:53:40 PM »
Here's some questions, John.  Did you think ever think it could be harmfully abusive and dangerous to have Michael kidnapped, then imprisoned in a closed institution ungoverned by any legal body and without authentication of the “therapy” it claimed to offer.

 Do you feel responsible at all for what became of Micheal? Do you feel remorse? You said an ASR victim’s description of its abusive “therapy” synched with your own son’s description, but that your son benefited from it.

Considering your son is dead, would you like to reconsider the logic behind that statement?

Was posting his photo along with the message "addiction was the disease that took him" a way of postmortemly "winning," of “proving” that he was an addict, the position you and ASR, fought to make him accept for a long time.

Personally, I'd say "memorializing" him as an addict and everlasting example of how bad teens can end up humiliates him. Id say using his corpse as an ad for your business exploits him.

I’d say humiliating and exploiting him is something you rationalize as love.  I’d say you’ve been doing that for a very, very  long time.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #234 on: September 18, 2009, 09:08:51 PM »
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Use ajax's real name while saying he molests his son, and see what happens.

No one knows anyones name here.  We are only guessing that thewho is John Reuben.  No one knows for sure.

No. It's been said positively, John. You are the Who.

No. It's been said positively, Ajax. You are the Who
or

No. It's been said positively, John. You are Ajax

See what I mean?  This abstract thinking just sails right over your head, Ajax, every time.  You have no facts... you never do.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #235 on: September 19, 2009, 02:31:09 PM »
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Ridiculous.  Even Ken fucking Huey posted here.  John IS posting here, formerly under the name TheWho, and now as an anon.  He will never confront anyone at this site, because to do so would be to admit he's TheWho and then there would be no deniability for TheWho's awful and stupid commentary here.  It would drive a stake thru the heart of his cash cow.  So he continues to post anon.  It ain't that deep.  If any of this was UNTRUE, he'd be suing, guaranteed.  Or at the very least denying.  That ain't happening.

So if you post something about someone here on the forum and it goes unchallenged then it becomes fact?  Hmmm.  So we can conclude that Ajax13 is guilty of abusing his son sexually as has been posted several times here.  He never denied any of the postings.  (We all assume it is true anyway, but since he never denied any of it we can conclude it is factual)

Thewho is a nice guy and tells the truth about everything.  So now we wait and if thewho doesnt deny this statement then it becomes factual.  Interesting rules.

Sorry, but you'll have to show us some proof TheWho is not John Reuben.  Prove he isn't.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #236 on: September 19, 2009, 02:42:29 PM »
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Sorry, but you'll have to show us some proof TheWho is not John Reuben.  Prove he isn't.

Sorry it doesnt work that way.  Otherwise we would have to prove that thewho isnt Ajax13 or Robertbruce, or psy or antigen or Ursus  etc.

Plus I emailed him and he said he wasnt.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #237 on: September 19, 2009, 05:16:37 PM »
Wait...I'm confused.  For several years you have been saying we have to provide evidence that programs don't work.  You were fine with having us prove a negative.  

Now you do it.  John Reuben is TheWho unless you prove he isn't.  We're just playing by your own rules, Who.  Now show us some proof.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #238 on: September 19, 2009, 06:10:08 PM »
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Wait...I'm confused.  For several years you have been saying we have to provide evidence that programs don't work.  You were fine with having us prove a negative.  

Now you do it.  John Reuben is TheWho unless you prove he isn't.  We're just playing by your own rules, Who.  Now show us some proof.

Exactly,  just provide proof of what you say, whether it be a positive or a negative.  Simple.  Otherwise anyone could just reword everything to be positive or negative to avoid the rules.  So if you feel Reuben is thewho then provide your proof.  If you feel strongly he is not thewho then provide proof also.
Until then we really dont know.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #239 on: September 19, 2009, 08:39:09 PM »
Yes, so unless somebody can prove otherwise we all agree John Reuben is TheWho.

Thanks for agreeing with me guest!
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