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John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---From: John Reuben [mailto:jreuben@savingteens.org] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:16 PMTo: VentureFuel@msn.com
Subject: Passing Away Of My Son Michael
Friends & Associates,Many of you may have already heard about the passing of my son, Michael, this past weekend as the result of substance abuse related issues. As much as I have tried these many years, I could not help Mike escape the grip of his drugs of choice. And now I am faced with a void in my life that will be impossible to replace.Substance abuse is a horrid disease, a plague on our society. In 2004 I realized that my son had this problem and looked for a constructive way to channel my energies from worrying about my son. I formed a non-profit called Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative (STICC) to help disadvantaged families with their children.
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This is when TheWho's research into teen programming really began. He trolled Fornits as a way to avoid "worrying about (his) son." Somehow I doubt all of this trolling will bring any kind of resolution for TheWho.
Anyway, this is the timeline for TheWho's arrival on Fornits, which became full-blown incessant, vapid trolling soon thereafter, culminating in directly attacking a kid who was abused at HLA, a favorite program of his key associate, Martha Kolbe, who continues to refer children to the abusive teen shitpit to this day.
Personally, I wouldn't be seeking help from a man with no conscience or morals, like John. Reading his posts here make me cringe and some make me feel sick to my stomach from the rationalization of hurting kids to 'help' them.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---The identity, significance, and activity of this person has been known by others on this forum for quite some time.
The actual larger circumstances and tragedy in this family is far more complex and tragic than you apparently have any clue about, maybe something you would know if this fictitious roommate you bring up were actually real.
While the circumstances certainly warrant - and would not have escaped - discussion on fornits, there is such a thing as "appropriate timing," even if for no other reason than to honor the memory of Mike Reuben, who did love his dad, btw. The kid is barely cold in the ground and already you are castrating the father.
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How did you know this? Why didn't you say something before?
Anonymous:
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John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18. Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.
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Can we just add, we don't know that this boy killed himself because he failed to get help? In all likelihood, he killed himself because he was abducted, imprisoned and tortured and brainwashed for many years. Any "normal" person would be profoundly dehabilitated by this lobotomization, deprivation and torment and whether he failed or succeeded to get help would not be the mortal wound.
Troll Control:
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John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18. Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.
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Can we just add, we don't know that this boy killed himself because he failed to get help?
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No, it was his father's responsibility to get him real help. Medical and psychological help, but daddy was too busy trying to break himself into the Teen Hurt business. So he sent Mike to SUWS and ASR, both of which are abusive programs populated by staff with no education that act basically as correctional officers.
Just look at daddy's words above. He wanted to forget about his son's problems, not get involved with them. So he sent him to a behavior mod facility instead of a treatment center or outpatient center. Believe me, TheWho is all about himself and nobody else. Here, look at this shamelss plug and product placement. Plugging SavingTeens.org on an orthodics website?
TheWho's shameless plug
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---The identity, significance, and activity of this person has been known by others on this forum for quite some time.
The actual larger circumstances and tragedy in this family is far more complex and tragic than you apparently have any clue about, maybe something you would know if this fictitious roommate you bring up were actually real.
While the circumstances certainly warrant - and would not have escaped - discussion on fornits, there is such a thing as "appropriate timing," even if for no other reason than to honor the memory of Mike Reuben, who did love his dad, btw. The kid is barely cold in the ground and already you are castrating the father.
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I think pounding his fist again and again while shouting a dozen times at RB to "Post Mike's obit, then!" was a fine opening and the appropriate timing, IMO. It's not my fault that he didn't like what he asked for after he got it.
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