Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
"TheWho"'s True Identity
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---Think about it from a readers perspective. That is why I question posters here, because I see these inconsistencies here all the time and no one but myself will call them out on it. There is such a drive to make all programs appear evil that the posters are willing to fabricate stories to attain their goal
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We've seen first hand how you get such a kick out (not to mention sexual gratification) of kids abuse stories, but do you have a single piece of evidence to suggest even one story posted on here was made up?
I'll settle for a single one.
--- Quote ---That is why I am viewed the way I am. I point out the discrepancies and the readers don’t like it.
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You don't point out discrepancies. You make things up and then run yourself in circles when held accountable for it. People show you facts and you refuse to acknowledge them. You're proven wrong almost daily and instead of accepting that you attempt to attack survivors. When people throw it back at you, you claim you're being trolled. Explain to me how this adds anything of substance to the board? You may think you're the devil's advocate on here but you would have to actually provide facts in order to qualify. People view you this way because you bring it on yourself.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---See, I am a little different. I see an injustice against people who cannot defend themselves and I just have to speak up. People should be free to post what ever they wish, but if they are lying for reasons of hurting innocent people then they should be held accountable or at the very least be challenged. That is what I do
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You think far too highly of yourself. You've never caught anyone in a lie on here, yet you've been proven wrong on countless occasions. You dismiss survivors abuse stories simply because you dont want it to be true. In addition you yourself have lied about posters on here who got the better of you.
You claimed Deborah lost custody of her children.
You claimed Dysfunction ignored his children
You claimed I was bi-sexual.
So tell us Peter, what were your reasons for lying? Try out that accountability for once, see how it feels.
--- Quote ---I haven’t humiliated or bashed anyone who hasn’t bashed me or someone else first.. at least not knowingly
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That's because you cant. You try, you just arent very good at it. Let me ask you though, you're so concerned for child abusers and absent parents. Where is your concern for the kids who are locked in these places and abused. That's who we're here for.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---How did pretending to be RobertBruce's sock puppet help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be an AARC insider recommending a non-existent facility defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be a drug using burn out from Kids Hleping Kids (I think it was) defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did "laughing" at the boy from WWASP who described his sexual abuse and torture help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did saying that Liam Sceff and all the survivors whose experience is accounted for at HEAL help those who cannot defend themselves?
Who reads reports of teenagers’ torture and decides to “fight injustice” on “behalf of people who cannot defend themselves” by …..anchoring yourself on an internet message board for those teens, and “tolling” it? Telling the survivors you come across that they are lying, taunting them (including dear Katie) and lying to promote the facilities where the teens are tortured in.
As a reminder—you have already claimed to have “fiduciary interest” in Aspen. From here on in, get your lies straight
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Classic! Now if someone is willing to put this much energy into discrediting and lying about a poster they don’t even know imagine the motivation there would be to discredit a program.
Katie, if you are reading this they are accusing me of trolling you! (This may answer your question) Katie knows she was the one who initiated contact and asked me questions. Now she knows the truth as I do. That you will use everyone and anyone to discredit those who do not agree with you. Along with your other long list. You just buried yourself even deeper. I don’t laugh at sexual abuse, rape or abuse children as you would like other to believe. But I bet you would plead for everyone to believe you are telling the truth about your time in the program...
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---So you think it is okay to start a thread about someone and bash and humiliate their whole family. Posting their address and phone numbers openly on the web. This must be okay to you because you attack the only person who will stand up to defend them.
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You were perfectly okay with this when you weren't on the recieving end of it Peter. Explain the double standard.
--- Quote ---I am just trrying to stand up for people who cannot protect themselves. If you feel you are above that then that is what you need to live with. Look around you . People are getting bashed who don’t even post here. But this attacking from the shadows seems to be okay with you for some reason, yet you try to appear better than others.
You are putting the "Beating a dead horse" symbol out there. It seems you are not understanding me so lets make this the last post. I respect your story and am sorry you cannot read an opposing viewpoint without spewing vulgarity at people..
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You're complaining after a getting a dose of your own medicine? Why?
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---I was the same way. I came here to fornits and read all the horror stories and took them all at face value, as you said.
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No you didn't. You denied them all from the word go. You tried to pass yourself off as some industry expert (now we understand why). You claimed you had a better understanding of what the situation was in these places, and then you began trying to attack posters when you were proven wrong.
--- Quote ---Then little by little I became comfortable and I started to tell my story and after awhile I noticed that those who didn’t like what I was saying would make up stories about me to discredit me. Some said I was an edcon, others that I was child abuser and a rapist. Still others said I was paid by the industry etc. Anything was said to try to discredit me when I spoke to others here
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You told multiple stories. Don't cry about us holding you to your own bullshit.
--- Quote ---It quickly dawned on me that if they were willing to go to such lengths to lie about me (who they didn’t even know) what about their stories about their stay in the program? What lengths would they go to discredit them? Did they make up all those stories of abuse just to make the program look bad and try to dissuade other parents from sending their kids. This answer has to be yes and I know many of you wont admit it but you know it to be true also. It is very unlikely that a person would lie about one person to discredit them and then maintain the truth when trying to discredit the program
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Does that work both ways? Why hold other people to that standard but not yourself. Peter you have lied about posters on here on multiple occasions. You play games consistently. If your logic is to be taken at face value then that would suggest that you too must be making up stories about these places being safe. In that same regard according to you if a person hasnt lied about you, then his story of abuse can be taken to be truthful correct?
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