Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
"TheWho"'s True Identity
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "katiesthoughts" ---My question for The Who and everyone who is arguing with him: Why are you even wasting your time? Obviously it is getting nowhere, and just causing him to retaliate and argue more. Why would you put your energy into something foul and repulsive, when we could be doing something to stop torture of these kids? I was in Cross Creek for 3 and ½ years and I saw fornits as a place for hope… what is it doing for me on this subject??? Its making me sick.
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Me too. It's as if RobertBruce and Co. have become so obsessed with Whooter that they've forgotten about the program discussion entirely. For some reason, a troll deserves more attention than kids suffering in programs. Whooter got what he wanted and RB doesn't even realize it.
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Its an unfortunate human tendency to take people at face value, and if someone is a self described program parent who just doesn't understand where you are coming from, there is a psychological impulse to explain yourself
Over time, when you notice that theWho claims to have a "fiduciary interest" in Aspen, recommends the a non -existent AARC facility from the point of view of an insider, pretends to have never existed except as a Robert Bruces sockpuppet , or a drug addled former student of HLA,says all the CEDU survivors, Liam Scheff, included are lied about abuse, you know this entity is much more (or less) then what it claims to be. It really is just a troll and should be treated as such--ignored.
You , psy, shouldmark it when it posts, or expose its IP.
TheWho:
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Its an unfortunate human tendency to take people at face value, and if someone is a self described program parent who just doesn't understand where you are coming from, there is a psychological impulse to explain yourself
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You are right where I was when I first came here, just a little skeptical but believing everything you heard.
I was the same way. I came here to fornits and read all the horror stories and took them all at face value, as you said.
Then little by little I became comfortable and I started to tell my story and after awhile I noticed that those who didn’t like what I was saying would make up stories about me to discredit me. Some said I was an edcon, others that I was child abuser and a rapist. Still others said I was paid by the industry etc. Anything was said to try to discredit me when I spoke to others here. It quickly dawned on me that if they were willing to go to such lengths to lie about me (who they didn’t even know) what about their stories about their stay in the program? What lengths would they go to discredit them? Did they make up all those stories of abuse just to make the program look bad and try to dissuade other parents from sending their kids. This answer has to be yes and I know many of you wont admit it but you know it to be true also. It is very unlikely that a person would lie about one person to discredit them and then maintain the truth when trying to discredit the program.
Do you see what I am saying? This is why I question many of the posts here. This is work that you yourselves should be doing so that I could move on.
Troll Control:
[quote"TheWho"]Do you see what I am saying? This is why I question many of the posts here. This is work that you yourselves should be doing so that I could move on.[/quote]
::deadhorse:: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
What a douche. You already said that nobody believes what is written here and that you're the truth squad, but you never said why you were truth-sqadding when nobody believes it anyway. Do you enjoy posting twelve hours a day every day on Fornits? Are you a glutton for punishment? Or, as I assume, you're a basic invalid stuck in a couple of rooms so you post all the time. Probably sitting in a wheelchair right now. You never, ever leave. And you won't no matter what anyone else does. You're mental, Who. All day and all night every day and every night you're here. You're pretty pathetic.
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---Look, Katie, let me try to explain something that you may not see. I think I can speak for many here that your story is moving, touching, sincere and very credible. I think that you will be able to open the eyes of many new readers and parents who come here to fornits to read up on the inside workings of the industry
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Why the change of heart? You were so adament before when you claimed that we were all liars about having ever been abused. You even went so far as to claim that less then 1% of all the inmates at these kiddie prisons were ever abused, and then later you changed your number to 0. Now all the sudden you believe this girl. Why?
--- Quote ---But now lets say in addition to your story you start posting about how a program parent who you never met drove their son to suicide or that programs aggravate diabetes to the point of causing death and that a kid who died from cancer at age 27 was the responsibility of the program he attended 10 years ago. You further post that I rape and murder children, I work for the industry and am an Edcon. These are all stories intended to make myself, programs and program parents look bad.
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If the stories are true then why should we care? Everyone knows you hate being held accountable, but as long as you post on here that isnt going to change.
--- Quote ---So what we would know is that you are willing to make up stories (or stand by the sidelines and say nothing while others do) to make programs, parents and staff look bad.
Now what would this say about you written account at Cross creek? Should you expect the readers to believe you were honest in your personal account at Cross Creek or would you expect us to believe you would say just about anything to make the place look bad because you hated the place and some of the staff?
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This has been explained to you on several occasions. There is no reason to make up stories about these places, or you and your kiddie abusing friends. The truth about how abusive these places are is damning enough.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---[quote"TheWho"]Do you see what I am saying? This is why I question many of the posts here. This is work that you yourselves should be doing so that I could move on.
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::deadhorse:: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
What a douche. You already said that nobody believes what is written here and that you're the truth squad, but you never said why you were truth-sqadding when nobody believes it anyway. Do you enjoy posting twelve hours a day every day on Fornits? Are you a glutton for punishment? Or, as I assume, you're a basic invalid stuck in a couple of rooms so you post all the time. Probably sitting in a wheelchair right now. You never, ever leave. And you won't no matter what anyone else does. You're mental, Who. All day and all night every day and every night you're here. You're pretty pathetic.[/quote]
That's a pretty hilarious image, actually.
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---See, I am a little different. I see an injustice against people who cannot defend themselves and I just have to speak up. .
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How did pretending to be RobertBruce's sock puppet help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be an AARC insider recommending a non-existent facility defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did pretending to be a drug using burn out from Kids Hleping Kids (I think it was) defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did "laughing" at the boy from WWASP who described his sexual abuse and torture help defend those who cannot defend themselves?
How did saying that Liam Sceff and all the survivors whose experience is accounted for at HEAL help those who cannot defend themselves?
Who reads reports of teenagers’ torture and decides to “fight injustice” on “behalf of people who cannot defend themselves” by …..anchoring yourself on an internet message board for those teens, and “tolling” it? Telling the survivors you come across that they are lying, taunting them (including dear Katie) and lying to promote the facilities where the teens are tortured in.
As a reminder—you have already claimed to have “fiduciary interest” in Aspen. From here on in, get your lies straight
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