A CALO response by Ken Huey

[Anonymous]

Thank you to Ursus, Guest, and FemanonFatal. I have, in the past, heard rumors about the "escort" services (thinking it was an invention of a television writer's mind), but the experience Fem has described makes my hair stand on end. Simply horrifying, and thank goodness those two places, at least, no longer exist. In the links you gave, there was no mention of either of the CALO people who used to be somewhere else. I'll go back and see if I can find a link to their previous employment. I truly would like to believe that "that was then and this is now," and that CALO uses different techniques (the dogs, for example) and has gone in a different direction, even with those staff members. Isn't it possible that the staff members left there in order to start a place with a new and different methodology?

Guest, please don't worry about me being a spy for the other side. I'm merely a bystander wanting to learn more (and so far my eyes have really been opened, aand I've just scratched the surface). I hope you'll forgive my naive questions and explain things to me -- think of me as a kindergartner who is just learning to read. I haven't jumped in here with plenty of knowledge about these places and this industry. I kind of fell into it, and I have to learn where the fight is, and whether or not it's possible that this particular school, which is new-ish, might have found a different way by people who knew first hand that the old ways are ineffective.

Somewhere, either here or in one of the links to an unrelated site, I read that rather than using the wrist bend technique, a non-touching talking-till-they're-sick-of-listening approach seems to be more effective. Certainly it would behoove schools to give that a good try. It's still unclear to me that CALO is using the restraining techniques in a way that tortures and injures teens, and until I see evidence to the contrary, I'll continue to wonder.

http://www.provotruthexposed.com/pcsstaff.htm

Therapy (c-change—2005 became Director of Bus. Dev.)

http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5208.shtml

KEN HUEY: WESTRIDGE CLINICAL DIRECTOR

(October 2, 2005) Ken Allen, Executive Director, Westridge Academy (formerly the Utah Boys Ranch), West Jordan, UT, 801-282-1007, announced that Ken Huey, PhD, is the new Director of Clinical Services. Huey will oversee all student programming, residential staff, therapists, spiritual advisors, recreation therapists and the new wilderness program. He worked at Provo Canyon School prior to this position at Westridge.

 Mr. Ken Huey chose to work at schools where abuse took place.   The aforesaid is a testament to his character.  As far as the restraints go, Positive Control Systems utilizes "bent wrist control methods with variations."  A restraint is not meant to be pleasant, especially PCS methods.  Think for one second how those kids feel.  They must comply in order to avoid pain or injury.

[Anonymous]

This place ruined my life, truly, utterly and completely

Oh, please. Don't you think that's just a bit over dramatic? You're alive, and have a long life ahead. Remember what psy said...

If you come off as an extremist, you damage the entire cause as it reflects on all of "us".

and there is nothing I wouldn't do to keep that from happening to another teen, even if just one.

Come on now, that's not true in the slightest. Your 'activism' ends at your computer keyboard like most everyone else who posts here.

[Anonymous]

This place ruined my life, truly, utterly and completely

Oh, please. Don't you think that's just a bit over dramatic? You're alive, and have a long life ahead. Remember what psy said...

If you come off as an extremist, you damage the entire cause as it reflects on all of "us".

and there is nothing I wouldn't do to keep that from happening to another teen, even if just one.

Come on now, that's not true in the slightest. Your 'activism' ends at your computer keyboard like most everyone else who posts here.

Oh, gee, another asshole whose IP could be subpoenaed. It would be SO fun to find out WHO these delightful person is!!
Fem’s activism goes far beyond this keyboard, as we all know.

[psy]

^The Who^  Dumbass.

I think perhaps you are right? Perhaps afraid of being sued, it assumed  a 'noobie' personality?
I still recomend that Fem subpeaona the IP of the it that said her grandma died alone, unloved, etc.

Subpoena on what grounds?  Anything actionable?

[Anonymous]

Oh, gee, another asshole whose IP could be subpoenaed. It would be SO fun to find out WHO these delightful person is!!
Fem’s activism goes far beyond this keyboard, as we all know.

Oh, gee, another person on fornits who has lost touch with reality. What a shocking surprise!

[FemanonFatal2.0]

This place ruined my life, truly, utterly and completely

Oh, please. Don't you think that's just a bit over dramatic? You're alive, and have a long life ahead. Remember what psy said...

If you come off as an extremist, you damage the entire cause as it reflects on all of "us".

and there is nothing I wouldn't do to keep that from happening to another teen, even if just one.

Come on now, that's not true in the slightest. Your 'activism' ends at your computer keyboard like most everyone else who posts here.

You really have no idea what I've been through... You can assume all you want, but I stand by those statements, that's how I feel.

Futhermore, Fornits is just a message board I don't consider THIS my advocate work. While I utilize my computer for the cause being as its the most efficient way to receive and deliver information, I have never been limited to one medium of contact. I network and show my support in person, over the phone, and through various online outlets. I offer my design services pro bono and I've handled many other forms of operation within our cause. Like many of us as well, I also have to make a living, I'm not living off the momma and poppa dole so I have to do all of this in between my 2 jobs, and school or soon an epic internship... SO feel free to question me but I'm positive my dedication should be abundantly clear.

[Anonymous]

Wouldn’t it be amusing to find out WHO it is?

No, not really. Most people, you know, sane people, aren't obsessed with internet troll the same you are. You need to enroll yourself in the closest mental health facility, or at the very least, take your medication.

[Anonymous]

Thank you to Ursus, Guest, and FemanonFatal. I have, in the past, heard rumors about the "escort" services (thinking it was an invention of a television writer's mind), but the experience Fem has described makes my hair stand on end. Simply horrifying, and thank goodness those two places, at least, no longer exist. .

As you know, they indeed continue to exist. WWAP lives. So does Provo Canyon and Westridge.

In the links you gave, there was no mention of either of the CALO people who used to be somewhere else. I'll go back and see if I can find a link to their previous employment. .

Don't worry. We don't expect you to "find anything." Your purpose is to obfuscate and phish, and even though something is an uncontroverted part of the public record, why admit to it when it intereferes with your torture proponancy?

Ken Huey admits to overseeing torture on his website, as a way of positively establishing his "qualifications."

http://caloteens.com/staff.aspx

“He joined Provo Canyon School at the beginning of 2003 and was named as their Director of Business Development in June of 2004. He left Provo Canyon in July of 2005 and joined West Ridge Academy as their Director of Clinical Services.”
I truly would like to believe that "that was then and this is now," and that CALO uses different techniques (the dogs, for example) and has gone in a different direction, even with those staff members. Isn't it possible that the staff members left there in order to start a place with a new and different methodology?

I truly would like to believe that "that was then and this is now," and that CALO uses different techniques (the dogs, for example) and has gone in a different direction, even with those staff members. Isn't it possible that the staff members left there in order to start a place with a new and different methodology?.

Sure thing. Later today I will shoot you in the head. A year later, should the police track me down, we will exchange tea and laugh, as hopefully they agree with your “that was then, this is now” philosophy.

I, mean, WHAT could it matter if Ken Huey was torturing and murdering the helpless 4 years ago? Its not like the lives of young people have VALUE, and their destruction should be regarded in ANY way.

Not only should Ken Huey not be in prison for sexually abusing, torturing and imprisoning helpless human beings, he should recreate EXACTLY the isolated, totalitarian captivity center he last tortured and murdered in and be granted the opportunity to recreate his special magic. Couldn’t agree more!

Somewhere, either here or in one of the links to an unrelated site, I read that rather than using the wrist bend technique, a non-touching talking-till-they're-sick-of-listening approach seems to be more effective. Certainly it would behoove schools to give that a good try.

"Schools" manage quite well without "training" teachers to bend the joints of students in order to control them. Gulags will never manage to control their prisoners without physical coersion and the constant threat of physical violence.

[SatansLawyer]

Ken Huey admits to overseeing torture on his website, as a way of positively establishing his "qualifications."

http://caloteens.com/staff.aspx

“He joined Provo Canyon School at the beginning of 2003 and was named as their Director of Business Development in June of 2004. He left Provo Canyon in July of 2005 and joined West Ridge Academy as their Director of Clinical Services.”
I truly would like to believe that "that was then and this is now," and that CALO uses different techniques (the dogs, for example) and has gone in a different direction, even with those staff members. Isn't it possible that the staff members left there in order to start a place with a new and different methodology?

Perhaps he left Provo because he disapproved of what went on there.  Perhaps he was even let go or reprimanded for raising objections.

[Anonymous]

Ken Huey admits to overseeing torture on his website, as a way of positively establishing his "qualifications."

http://caloteens.com/staff.aspx

“He joined Provo Canyon School at the beginning of 2003 and was named as their Director of Business Development in June of 2004. He left Provo Canyon in July of 2005 and joined West Ridge Academy as their Director of Clinical Services.”
I truly would like to believe that "that was then and this is now," and that CALO uses different techniques (the dogs, for example) and has gone in a different direction, even with those staff members. Isn't it possible that the staff members left there in order to start a place with a new and different methodology?

Perhaps he left Provo because he disapproved of what went on there.  Perhaps he was even let go or reprimanded for raising objections.

Then why is he not a whistleblower sounding the horn against Provo, like Dysfunction Junction? Why not witness against them? Why not  issue reports and complaints against them? Quite decidedly, he did not.

Why, instead, list them and Westridge as proof of his "experience" "helping" "troubled" people?

 “Secretly” objecting to torture, while participating in it, and furthering the aims of the torturers, doesn’t get people off the hook legally, and certainly not morally.

Indeed, you are Satan’s lawyer. I like your new personality over your old one, “houseguest.” It’s a little more honest.

[Anonymous]

.................or PERHAPS .....  

S/L
you have layed with enough dogs you have fleas ?

[Anonymous]

This is the responsible, ethical thing to do, when expected to participate in the torture of detainees:

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:Ugw ... clnk&gl=us

Neither Nicole Fuglsang, nor Ken Huey did anything of the sort. Instead, they reaped their "rewards" for participating in torture, imprisonment without due process, etc, both financially and (I'm guessing) psychologically. Later, after witnessing that one can do ANYTHING to teenagers, call it therapy, and make extraordinary amounts of money doing it, they started their own gulag, informed by their respective Synanon, Provo Canyon and Westridge academy foundations.


http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:QEk ... clnk&gl=us

As Nicole Fulgsang was associated with CEDU, Synanon, Hidden Lake Academy, and this group's policy was to have guards undergo their coercive persuasion therapies, it is a reasonable possibility she's not only a torturer for hire, but a bona fide cult member

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:nJu ... clnk&gl=us

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:fDr ... clnk&gl=us

[houseguest]

Guest, I don't know what horrors you have been through that have brought you to the point of this paranoia and suspicion and xenophobia, but it must have been truly awful, and I'm very sorry that you -- or any other person -- had to go through that. You've accused me of being several other people, none of whom I am. I'm also not an attorney -- the closest I come to that is watching Court TV. Actually, though, if I were a juror and you were a prosecutor presenting evidence, I don't think I would be able to convict anyone based on what you've presented. Maybe it's because I'm new here and don't know the territory -- which schools have been documented as bad, and which staff members have actually participated in cruelties or knew about them and allowed them to happen. But there are some big, blank spots in this particular jigsaw puzzle.

So far you've accused Ken Huey of everything up to and including murder -- where does that come from? If I were on this hypothetical jury, I would be trying to connect the dots, and so far most of the dots haven't been revealed to me. Maybe they won't be, since you don't trust me; but then I'll come away from this with a feeling that you are overreacting and looking for a target. I haven't seen anything that tells me that CALO is a bad place with an abusive staff.

I have never been to CALO or to any other residential school, except the one my daughter went to in Vermont. I'm not employed by CALO or any other facility -- I do freelance graphic production art at home. I just have a curiosity about why someone felt the need to cause additional trauma to teens who are there by putting their confidential information online. You have insulted my intelligence, called me names, and generally have been abusive to me. As I said, I have a couple message boards and I understand all too well the suspicion when a stranger shows up (which is why mine are by invitation only). I suspect nothing will convince you that I am who I say I am, so I'm not going to try. I will just do my best to ignore you.

[Anonymous]

I see CALO(thewho?) has moved from legal threats to a sudden appearance of new posters arguing there is no evidence the "school" he runs is anything but sunshine and rainbows. They also don’t have the ability to connect "dots."


“What? Testimony of torture at the other gulags these individuals have run, one of which links back to the cult Synanon. I don’t understand your links. Me no read good.

Me heard terrible thing on this forum from someone. Me cant say who. Is secret. Me cry frozen tears for children with name on the internet. The trauma they feel is sad.

Ken Huey tortured kids at Provo Canyon and Westridge? Well, live and learn!"

[Anonymous]

ME:
Did you do the ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:

yes I did

ME:

can you describe how that worked?

XXXXXXXX:

yeah

They had us get in a line silently. They picked their favorites first. Then if we got scared or said we were done. They would say we had to do more or it was regroup.

Then if you didn't cheer the others on. You would get on regroup and you could not leave the area

ME:

So you didn't have a choice about doing the ropes course, it was do it or get in trouble?

XXXXXXX:

Yes

ME:

What kind of regroups did you have to do?

XXXXXX:

I had to pick up hole punched dots on the ground and move them from cup to cup. With out stopping

I had to clean bathroom without gloves

dust fake plants

umm...pick up crumbs off the floor with my hands

scrub the floor with a toothbrush

scrub the floor

with a rag

ME:

this was for Ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:

umm well regroup was the same no matter what you did

ME:

Did regroup feel like a chance to reflect on the problem or did it feel like something else?

XXXXXX:

felt like a punishment Couldn't talk

couldn't even ask for the bathroom

They would tell you when you could go

to the bathroom

ME:

What did you do if you had to use the bathroom?

XXXXXXX:

You waited until they told you that you could go


ME:

you ever experience any pain or discomfort for having to wait for permission to use the bathroom?

XXXXXXX:

umm yes

ME:

and did you ever try to ask to go even though you knew you weren't supposed to?

XXXXXXXX:

Yes and I got rrestrained

ME:

For asking to use the bathroom, you got restrained?

XXXXXXX:

yes they did not like me questioning authority


ME:

Did you try to hurt yourself, hurt anyone else before this restraint?

XXXXXXXX:

no

well for other things

but not this

ME:

Ok.. so back to ropes course..

XXXXXXX:

okay

ME:

Did you have to complete ropes course to advance in CALO's program?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

So it wasn't voluntary, you couldn't choose not to do it, and if you didn't do it you couldn't advance?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

And if you got scared and stopped you'd get punished with a regroup?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Did anyone ever get restrained at the Ropes Course?

XXXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Were they trying to hurt themselves or anyone else?

XXXXXXXX:

nope not all of the time

ME:

Do you think you got anything out of CALO's ropes course?

XXXXXXXX:

Nah not really

ME:

Did you see Ken Huey ever restrain a resident?

XXXXXXX:

a few

ME:

So a few people?

XXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Were they trying to hurt themselves or another?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

Were they ever not trying to hurt themselves or another?

XXXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

And you saw Ken Huey try to restrain them?

XXXXXXX:

yes

he usually took over a restraint

for another staff

ME:

Did these restraints appear to be painful?

XXXXXX:

yes

most staff restrained kids painfully

ME:

Did the people being restrained ever beg staff to stop?

XXXXXXX:

yes

ME:

How did the staff respond?

XXXXXX:

they would either yell, cuss

or put them on regroup

rarely did they let them go

unless authority gave approval

ME:

Ok.. that's all I have time for now, do you mind if I edit this intertiew for grammar, spelling, and to protect your identity?

XXXXXXXX:

Yes

ME:

Do you give me permission to post this interview, in editted form, on a public forum on the internet?

XXXXXXXXX:

yes if NO ONE knows its me

ME:

Your name will never be uttered from my lips or fingertips.

thanks, I'll get this fixed up and posted. You've been a great help.

XXXXXXXXX:

okay thank you

sure thing

thanks

ME:

bye!

XXXXXXX:

bye

the...

FUCKING...

And that shit is happening right now to kids who have been identified.

I don't mean to impinge on Proxied's turf here but YOU HAVE THE KIDS' NAMES, HELP FIND THE FUCKING PARENTS!!!

[Redacted due to DMCA claim] Sabonis-Helf mother's name seems to be Theresa Sabonis-Helf. If this is the correct Sabonis-Helf, her contact info is or was:
+1 3014080995
8001 Glenside Dr, 20912, Takoma Park

I'm not even sure if they'd let me print this shit out at the library. Anyone with a printer at home mind snail mailing this shit? Fold it neatly and put a big fat flag stamp on it.

Those parents, and I use the term fucking LOOSELY, I hope to God your own kids sue you into oblivion for this. This is some royally sick shit. Look at this! Just read it! I know you don't give a damn about your kids but pretend it's YOU! Ken Huey, the idea that you would do ANYTHING to "protect the kids" is a fucking JOKE.

This is not therapy. This is not "treatment". This isn't even infantilist pedophilia as Proxied would have it. This is just FUCKING PSYCHOTIC SHIT.

Where the FUCK is what passes for Missouri's child services?