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Can someone please call the FBI, CPS, whomever?

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Anonymous:
Psy, disillusionment is never easy.

Here, guest. Try calling them yourself. FBI, CPS, State Department. Let us know how far it gets you.

If the American authorities gave two shits about the basic rights of children there wouldn't be a Fornits.

psy:

--- Quote from: "CAFETY, PLEASE HELP!!!" ---i didn't bother to read your entire response. Stopped at "i expect youre a troll."
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Well then you sort of missed half the point.  Reread the post.  You're focusing on magnifying the details and not on how they fit into the puzzle of the bigger picture.  The authorities won't care unless you can show there is a pattern, and even then, they probably have their hands tied as each of these tiny things on their own don't constitute any sort of crime.


--- Quote ---I can assure you forcing ANYONE to carry ten pounds of anything morning till night, for days, weeks, months, years, to force them to embrace a belief  and with the stated intention of causing suffering is a criminal manner.
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But that's not what the post said, now did it?  Even if it did, it's double-heresay and completely inadmissible as evidence (you heard it from a parent who heard it from staff who heard it from etc...).  If you want to take the program out, reread my post and look to the latter portion for advice.  It's what's worked in the past and can work in the future.  The criminal angle does not work so well.  Civil action and appealing to licensing authorities, on the other hand, has had a fair deal of success.

FemanonFatal2.0:
I remember there was a similar technique used in High Impact, I was forced to carry a bag of sand in a potato sack on my shoulders... Now granted this thing was at least 35 lbs and was extremely uncomfortable to carry, I bet the significance is still the same today as it was in my day at WWASP. to degrade and break the will into complying with confessions of issues that were outside the scope of logical.

I know this might sound unsympathetic, but its almost nice to see WWASP is cleaning up their act even in the slightest... I would have given my left arm to be allowed to carry just a 10 lb box. I think the point Psy made tho is important, you wont get anywhere telling the FBI that this boy is being abused because he is forced to carry a 10 lb box. The work we are doing, what CAFETY is working on, is encouraging legislation that will create an agency that is trained and knowledgeable enough to determine that this kind of thing is only the tip of the ice burg, and signifies the existence of psychological abuse in this facility.

I know some of you think regulation wont work, or will cause more problems, but its really the only option available to get an agency of the government to even understand our plight. I'll tell you, if I worked at CPS or the FBI I would take these reports seriously but that's only because I have personal experience with the innerworkings of a program like WWASP. At this point, the FBI and CPS have no interest in residential treatment programs and in most cases they don't have the authority to interfere with a private facility unless there is empirical evidence of abuse.
 
You want to spur an investigation that will free that kid?... go undercover. get some video footage of illegal and unethical activity, bring it to the cops who might have jurisdiction over the area the program operates in and make a formal complaint. Footage by inside edition is what got High Impact shut down and lead to the closure of CBS, the authorities in the area should already be aware of WWASP as a problem, it shouldn't be too hard to spur an investigation. You wont have a ton of options going to the police in the US, they dont have jurisdiction in Mexico, but you might be able to get somewhere with CPS, or another state accountability agency, they might be able to take on some of the negotiations with the authorities in Mexico. I would recommend California, they have the most comprehensive laws concerning child protection, theres a reason there are no WWASP facilities in CA.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "psy" ---The real insidious stuff that goes on in programs generally can't be put in words... not because it's too horrible...  just because such psychological concepts and feelings are so hard to put into words... the stripping away of a person's beliefs, core values, even their very identity.  There is nothing more damaging or more long lasting than the mental effects.  Physical hurts heal quickly...  mental reprogramming, not so much...  and if you were a survivor, i'd suspect you'd know that
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Stop being such a drama queen. What you went through does not warrant your response, and that goes for most of you.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0" ---I remember there was a similar technique used in High Impact, I was forced to carry a bag of sand in a potato sack on my shoulders... at least 35 lbs .. its almost nice to see WWASP is cleaning up their act even in the slightest... I would have given my left arm to be allowed to carry just a 10 lb box.
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You went full retard.

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