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TheWho:

--- Quote ---The one common thing I found among kids at HLA is that every single one of them has vilified at least one parent-figure. This was a bit of a shock to me, and my kids were likewise shocked to hear about it. The concept of parental vilification is completely outside their comprehension.
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Of course it is outside their comprehension.  It is outside almost every kids comprehension.  I bet if you placed one of your kids in HLA they would learn how to comprehend vilification in a short few days.  You wouldn’t be at the top of their ten most favorite peoples list.
PG54 Are you sure you worked as a counsellor?  Most professionals would understand why these kids are angry and pissed off at the ones who sent them there and you went home to talk to your kids about how miffed you were by their actions?  No offense but I find this action a bit bazaar on your part to say the least.

RobertBruce:
In addition to Whooter John now all of the sudden demanding studies and proof being provided, despite the fact that he's never provided any, and ignores it when its shoved in his face, I find it ironic that he has a staff member verifying abusive practices, yet all John can attempt to do is attack him personally. John were'nt you crying a few weeks ago claiming this happens to you whenever you "try to present a differing perspective"?

Own up to the fact that you have once again been owned.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "HLA guest" ---pg. 54' could you please go back to sharing details on what HLA does? :feedtrolls:
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It may seem as if i went off on an unrelated tangent, that is not the case.

you want my professional opinion?
abusive programs exist because there is a demand for them. There is a demand for them because our society is diseased and dysfunctional. families are so messed up because of a confluence of factors all centered around the functioning of the american suburban/urban lifestyle. 9-5 jobs, long commutes, divorces, stepparents, the constant desire for more, the constant need for upwards mobility and "progress", horrible diets, dysfunctional educational system, excessive TV, "independent" women who "work" because they "can" and ignorantly deprive their family of a basic psychological need. All these things, and more, indirectly result in factors which cause problems within families, such as what guest (thewho) mentioned above: adoptions, single parents etc. it's not complexity, it's not technology. i'm no social conservative, i dont think "the gays are causing society to rot", i fucking hate bush, I voted ron paul. it's the fact that society has lost it's connection with the traditional means and ways of life which kept families glued together and stable for thousands of years. America has traded tradition for convenience, indulgence, and the ability to live life in a dollar and oil-fueled state of bliss. Look around you, read the news. has this recent economic crisis opened your eyes at all? The only thing that will eliminate programs is the elimination of the demand for them. The only way to eliminate the demand is to bring society back to a more basic, traditional, family and land - oriented social structure. Humans need purpose and stability in their lives. Modern society provides neither.

Posting on fornits in the hopes of getting programs shut down is like using a band-aid to attach a severed limb. it's not going to happen. You do have the effect of discouraging SOME parents from sending their kids away, but you wont stop the industry. This is a better analogy: Fornits is to the war on TBSs as what nancy reagan and DARE are to the war on drugs. i'm sure thats something you can wrap your minds around. I post here purely for amusement and for the opportunity to educate a few ignorant souls and pop their little reality bubbles. and i know who thewho is, i've been monitoring this site for a while but i've only posted on a few occasions in the distant past.

What will change the industry is TIME. HLA is getting what has been coming for them for a long time. It's Karma. Other institutions will come and go likewise, their lifespan determined only by the formula: How nice and luxurious they are divided by how abusive they are times how shrewd they are. Eventually, with the end of cheap oil society itself will collapse like the roman empire and the institutions will go with it. By that time, however, you guys will have much bigger things to worry about than taking your anger out on something wrong and corrupt.

You want me to go into great detail about the going-ons at HLA. it's not going to happen. As I said, I was only there for a few months six years ago. When all my kids left the house i got lonely so i figured i'd go work there. I was in for quite a surprise. Nothing i say would surprise you, most of everything i know has already been said somewhere on this forum in the past by someone else.

regarding variation from child to child: yes, i have observed exactly what you mentioned. my two girls hated farming growing up, although the boys loved it and they are still doing it. the girls moved out to a big city when they went to college and they were somewhat disgusted with the urban lifestyle. Then when they got married and had a kids i bought them a houses in an affluent suburban areas, more as an investment than expecting them to actually live there. they stayed there for five years and finally within a year of each other became fed up with it, finding it to be a caricature of rural life to appease the urban people who want peace and quiet. they were lost, didnt know what to do, their families were growing fat and lazy. Finnally, they gave up. I sold those suburban houses for a cool and very inflated thousand percent profit (~6mil each), divvied up the money between my kids. my daughters bought adjacent plots of land not too far from me and have started their own joint farming operation, and they love it. they are raising their kids the same way i raised them, and i am so damn proud of that it brings tears to my eyes. when i go, my land will go to them and she will continue the family business. My sons have also continued the family bussiness: one has an orange grove in florida, another has a ranch in wyoming, and my eldest is a well-known medical marijuana caretaker and shepherd (raises sheep) in california.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote ---The one common thing I found among kids at HLA is that every single one of them has vilified at least one parent-figure. This was a bit of a shock to me, and my kids were likewise shocked to hear about it. The concept of parental vilification is completely outside their comprehension.
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PG54 Are you sure you worked as a counsellor?  Most professionals would understand why these kids are angry and pissed off at the ones who sent them there and you went home to talk to your kids about how miffed you were by their actions?  No offense but I find this action a bit bazaar on your part to say the least.
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I understood exactly why these kids were so angry. it wasnt surprising, just shocking. I was more "miffed" at their parent's ignorance and the school's complacency to uphold that ignorance than at the kid's attitude.

I was a counselor, but not for any specific peer group. I was initially hired to be a pg counselor, but they had a temporary sag in admissions so i became a supervisor, and i "floated" from peer group to peer group from week to week supervising the other counselors, untill my disgust with a certain MR. McAllister MR. Hyde and MR. Holloway pushed me over the edge and led me to quit. My degrees are in philosophy, not psychology or psychiatry. I did my master's thesis on kantian ethics...

RobertBruce:
Pg54, could you go into the bonus program that Len instituted where counselors were given a bonus for keeping a kid locked up regardless of theraputic value.

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