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Anonymous:
i do have kids. five of them, and they all turned out just fine. how did i manage that? i do not allow myself to project an image of an ideal child and then force my child into that mold. I let them develop on their own only with my support, encouragement, and wisdom. I put their well-being above all else. I have never in any way allowed myself to become a vilified figure to my children. The one common thing I found among kids at HLA is that every single one of them has vilified at least one parent-figure. This was a bit of a shock to me, and my kids were likewise shocked to hear about it. The concept of parental vilification is completely outside their comprehension. I live scrupulously while providing a comfortable lifestyle and secure future for my family. That does not mean a 9-5 job for my wife an i, HDTV's, five cars, and a mcmansion. it means a self sufficient family farm, total financial independence, strong family bonds, and a good education. Both my wife an I work at home, and my kids have helped out ever since each of of them was old enough to perform any given task. While my kids attended public school, i supplemented them with 10 extra hours a week of home schooling in subjects they missed in high school (and college too!): philosophy, ethics, psychology, law (constitutional law in particular), history and geography of nations other than the U.S, and more traditional subjects such as carpentry, various subjects applicable to living off the land, advanced social skills, marksmanship, archery, martial arts, among many other things. My kids did not grow up in your suburban, consumerist, fetishistic society. They did not spend their days roaming the mall outfitting themselves in the latest hot-topic gear in order to set themselves apart as much as possible from the abercrombie crowd, or vice versa. They rarely skipped school because with the supplementary homeschooling, school was fun for them, and on the rare occasion that they did skip school i didnt care much because they were already ahead of their classmates. They never wandered the streets with nothing good to do, they always had plenty of work to do around the farm and plenty of safe places for recreation. they never went on "blunt rides" as kids do nowandays, because they were given a safe place to participate in that activity on my property. They did listen to the same music, play video games, and wear similar clothing, they still deal with the same social drama, but they dont think anything of it: they did not put it on such a high pedestal in their life as to allow those things to shape their identities. They have a clear sense of themselves and their purpose in life. To them, behaving in a way similar to the children at HLA is unthinkable; yet I also allowed them to misbehave in a controlled manner. I've allowed them since they each turned 13 to smoke pot, drink, stay out late and have all the sex they want, as long as they would do so in a responsible, adult manner. My three oldest 'experimented' a little once in a while but it never turned into something their lives centered around. my two younger children (both in their 20's now) were simply never interested in any of that (other than the opposite sex) because it was a fact of life around the house since they were babies, they had more interesting, and healthy "rebellious" things to do.
Anonymous:
pg. 54' could you please go back to sharing details on what HLA does? :feedtrolls:
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---Please cite your source. I would like to see the study
--- End quote ---
This is funny. TheWho now demands studies. For over five years he has been telling people who want to see efficacy studies that parents' anecdotal evidence is all anyone needs. TheWho is a moron.
And, by the way, flipping on a counselor who deems HLA as abusive isn't "adding balance" - it's trying to smear or devalue an educated professional's opinion, i.e. that HLA is ineffective and abusive, in order to PROP UP HLA.
I think little Whootie is upset because another educated professional from his beloved industry affirms said industry is highly abusive and ineffective and blames the kids' parents for their problems. Whootie gets REAL MAD :flame: when his ego is crushed by yet another psychology professional telling him he is a lousy parent (his dead child isn't enough to convince him).
So, he's just trying to silence someone he doesn't want to hear :lala: because he's an immature little baby that raised his kids like a fucking chump, blamed them for his problems, sent them to abusive programs, then used his son's suicide/death notice as a marketing tool to attract more dumbass parents to his industry.
TheWho is a pathetic, transparent idiot and everyone but him seems to know this.
Troll Control:
Hey 54, you can see here about the troll "who" is tangling with you:
TheWho, Program Shill
He has posted over 850 times in this thread alone (under his username) and probably a thousand or more times anon in the same thread. You're dealing with a first-class dope. Enjoy!
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "pg54counselor" ---i do have kids. five of them, and they all turned out just fine. how did i manage that? i do not allow myself to project an image of an ideal child and then force my child into that mold. I let them develop on their own only with my support, encouragement, and wisdom. I put their well-being above all else. I have never in any way allowed myself to become a vilified figure to my children. The one common thing I found among kids at HLA is that every single one of them has vilified at least one parent-figure. This was a bit of a shock to me, and my kids were likewise shocked to hear about it. The concept of parental vilification is completely outside their comprehension. I live scrupulously while providing a comfortable lifestyle and secure future for my family. That does not mean a 9-5 job for my wife an i, HDTV's, five cars, and a mcmansion. it means a self sufficient family farm, total financial independence, strong family bonds, and a good education. Both my wife an I work at home, and my kids have helped out ever since each of of them was old enough to perform any given task. While my kids attended public school, i supplemented them with 10 extra hours a week of home schooling in subjects they missed in high school (and college too!): philosophy, ethics, psychology, law (constitutional law in particular), history and geography of nations other than the U.S, and more traditional subjects such as carpentry, various subjects applicable to living off the land, advanced social skills, marksmanship, archery, martial arts, among many other things. My kids did not grow up in your suburban, consumerist, fetishistic society. They did not spend their days roaming the mall outfitting themselves in the latest hot-topic gear in order to set themselves apart as much as possible from the abercrombie crowd, or vice versa. They rarely skipped school because with the supplementary homeschooling, school was fun for them, and on the rare occasion that they did skip school i didnt care much because they were already ahead of their classmates. They never wandered the streets with nothing good to do, they always had plenty of work to do around the farm and plenty of safe places for recreation. they never went on "blunt rides" as kids do nowandays, because they were given a safe place to participate in that activity on my property. They did listen to the same music, play video games, and wear similar clothing, they still deal with the same social drama, but they dont think anything of it: they did not put it on such a high pedestal in their life as to allow those things to shape their identities. They have a clear sense of themselves and their purpose in life. To them, behaving in a way similar to the children at HLA is unthinkable; yet I also allowed them to misbehave in a controlled manner. I've allowed them since they each turned 13 to smoke pot, drink, stay out late and have all the sex they want, as long as they would do so in a responsible, adult manner. My three oldest 'experimented' a little once in a while but it never turned into something their lives centered around. my two younger children (both in their 20's now) were simply never interested in any of that (other than the opposite sex) because it was a fact of life around the house since they were babies, they had more interesting, and healthy "rebellious" things to do.
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So you were able to witness first hand that there is variation from child to child which is independent of parenting style. If one of your children didn’t like farming (just to take an example) there would be nothing you could adjust in your parenting style to make him/her embrace farming as a lifestyle.
Now take families where one parent died the other works, there is no home schooling or extended family or farm. Each day has a different challenge. Once you throw this into the mix you can begin to see the challenge of keeping all the kids on track becomes increasingly difficult. Then add adoption issues etc.
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