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What's This Forum about REALLY?
Anonymous:
Now, now anons - surely we can do better than to respond with tacky inuendoes and impotent little sarcasms. The lady asked for some feedback, good bad or indifferent.
What's This Forum about REALLY?
This Forum is about the universe unfolding as it should. For better or for worse. Kudos to those whose here-today-gone-tomorrow post-its were intended to change the hearts and minds of persons who do not honor their children. From your lips to God's ears.
turbinekat:
--- Quote ---On 2003-08-11 19:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"THE TEEN HELP INDUSTRY - I mean really, what is this forum about.
Lee - couldn't find out your story other than you had a kid in a wwasp program for a mere 2 months and now you are promoting a small teen help agency (PURE) You said you post on sites like this to "educate" other parents on wwasp. Good one! How can you with only 2 months? Did your fear of change and the process get in the way of going the distance with yoru child? Just a question, not an accusation.
I can't judge WWASPS, but from what I'm learning here, it requires a lot more than believing what's on the surface. This could be interesting...bring it on!
Betsy
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Is it my turn yet!!! Deborah, I'd support you, but I'd get bashed for it & I haven't known you for very long either!!! LMAO
Betsy, hello ol gal!!! Welcome aboard!!!
YOU couldn't find MY story; apparently YOU didn't look before YOU leaped. Doesn't surprise me from the comments you have chosen to sling around about some dear friends of mine & a few people whom disagree with MY motive. Again, MY motive!!!
I DO NOT promote anyone out here! I stand up for ME on MY own two feet. I have spoken with many out here & do agree with most on some issues, but NOT on all of the issues at hand. I wouldn't consider myself as a PURE supporter, although I have written an article for their newsletter. I do know & have spoken to their president. And least we forget that I am listed as a parent volunteer. Which means (can you keep a secret?)... From time to time parents contact me & ask for MY experiences with MY children, family & yes OUR exposure to wwasps.
2 months you say, hell maybe I'm a fast learner. I had a vasectomy a few years back & it only took about 20 minutes. I tell anyone I know about my experience with that too!!!
What's wrong with a guy who expresses his opinion with something he was involved with for two months? Not to mention the last year of research, any audio tape or any other pertinent info I have obtain. No, I'm by no means an expert in this field, but I don't consider a used car sales man or night watchman an expert either. Both of whom own & operate a behavior modification list of specialty schools.
As far as change goes, DAILY my dear. My oldest son & I were discussing this same issue as we drove on a trip last week well over 2400 miles. Man, I love conversing with his eighteen year old self. I am still in this for my son down this long haul. BTW; he has been sworn into the NAVY & awaiting his trip to boot camp. Damn, I'm proud of him!!! Just don't see eye to eye all the time, but we get by. As far as children, I've raised three, not may if someone had raised ten or more. But it is three more than those who have not raised any. So there again, I do have some experience with children.
By all means, don't take everything I say for grant it concerning wwasps. Do YOUR own homework, all I ask is that YOU do some!!! Don't get taken like many who have gone before YOU! If YOU personally don't have a problem with their methods, have a go at it!!! As we say in Texas; "get you some"!!!
As always.
Regards,
Lee
Anonymous:
Yes, everything is the way it's supposed to be. Let go and let God, your angels, your Higher Power, or for me...my heart.
I think Betsy's question and views are very valid, considering what's been here. It's a right/wrong power play. Thank you Lee, yes, we all have our views and opinions and what I get from this question, in my own view, is that it really isn't about WWASPS, but many underlying issues that we have within ourselves that it's easier to blame a company, because it's a safer place than getting honest with what's really happening here. This is evidenced by the flippant and sarcastic responses. Someone asks a serious question and a few have to continue the game. I don't even see the question as right/wrong, just for clarification by what she has recently read.
Lee, I believe you are very proud of your son. I know boot camp is very hard, but it needs to be to get the results our soldiers need to face life in the military. Just when they think they can't go on, they find the strength to continue. He's lucky to have you as his dad.
What's this forum about. It is what it is.
Anonymous:
Obviously there are folks who peruse this forum who have a hard time tolerating any view or opinion that contradicts or seriously challenges their own. Some more than others, as evident by their vicious, cruel and immoral attacks upon a certain non-PURE supporter who they would have us all believe is PUBLIC ENEMY #1.
WHY?
What is the purpose in ridiculing this person whose only crime is she does not share the values and beliefs of these people or the organization they defend with near evangelistic zeal? Do they not see the PURE IRONY in this????
What's this Forum really all about?
INDOCTRINATION. Replacing one set of values and beliefs with another.
Anonymous:
If this forum is about indoctrination, it's sure doing an awful job!
Any forum about indoctrination wouldn't allow anonymous posts, for one.
It certainly wouldn't allow the freeflowing and sometimes insanely boring arguments that occur here.
And it would be tightly moderated to present only one opinion and to censor others.
The WWASP people only have two arguments:
1) PURE is bad so don't pay any attention to their claims about WWASP
2) All negative claims about WWASP are false because we say so. If you can't argue the facts on a particular case, refer to number 1 to try to cloud the issue.
That's why this forum goes in annoying circles.
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