Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
A WORD TO THE WISE
Anonymous:
It doesnt seem like right or wrong, it is a fact WWASPS is the enemy that most here are fighting, with the exception of one of the posters that seems to have a personal vendetta against others.
I dont care what Pure does, and quite frankly, that subject is boring. No, I am not a Pure follower but I am anti-WWASPS. That is the point.
Deborah:
This is 2003 on planet Earth. Things are in a mess. Teens are being unjustly incarcerated and abused to the tune of billions per year. The leader in this Industry is under fire.
When it happens that two entities within the same industry go head to head, I'm more than ecstatic to lend my support the the lessor of the evils to bring about the demise of the other.
When it happens that a third party, inside or independent of the industry, takes action to bring down the lessor of those two evils, I will ecstatically lend my support there.
The world is not black and white. One does what one can. And if that means temporarily lending my voice to the lessor of two evils to bring down the giant and set a precedent, so be it.
You can choose to be morally rightous, and avoid the gray areas. Or you can jump in and support any action that ultimately has a worthy goal.
And, there is a third option. Sit on the sidelines with your moral judgments and watch. But, please keep your rightous belly-aching to yourself. The rest of us have work to do.
Deborah
Anonymous:
Deborah writes: "WWASP's treatment of children is abusive."
Deborah - in all respect, I ask you to PROVE IT! You yourself said you HAVE NO EXPERIENCE of WWASP schools. Are you not basing your judgment on what is written here or in newspapers? Most, but not all posters are from PURE. Others are posters using WWASP as an excuse for another parent or relative admitting their child without agreeing or signing the papers for the admission. The rest seem to be parents that believed their little darling when they said they were being abused.
I look for facts, not fiction. From what I know there have been NO proven cases of abuse at a WWASP School in all the years they've been helping families. Yes, Morava, Paradise Cove and Dundee Ranch closed. Don't know about Morava, but Paradise Cove did not close because of abuse or the HEAT, they closed by their own choice. Dundee closed temporarily, and from what I get from that, the former director who wrote the letter hasn't come forward to actually let the courts look at her allegations. I honestly don't care if they open again. From what I get, they were a thorn in WWASP's side from the beginning and unless something different happens, WWASP probably won't bring them back as one of their schools.
PURE isn't even close to being in the same league with WWASP. What a joke! You make them sound SO BIG AND BAD, but they're just a few unethical backstabbers pretending to be a WHOLE lot of people. They're nothing to me and have no weight in what decisions I make.
No one can predict the future...or can they?? It seems inevitable that PURE is grasping at the end of rope by their tactics to keep from going to prison for posting false allegations and defamation of character.
So, Deborah and others, if that's what you want to create for yourselves, No one's going to throw you a life preserver.
WWASP is NOT Straight, it is not CEDU, it's not even close to anything else out there. The only similarity is that they work with troubled teens. Instead of sitting behind a computer, find out where you can hear from the teens and families who can show you the success stories. It's not here in cyberspace!
Anonymous:
FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT CLAIMS NOT TO BE ABUSIVE (OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE YOU FOOLED. ) THEY SURE SPEND A LOT OF EFFORT (AND ATTORNEY TIME )PUTTING DISCLAIMERS AND WAIVERS INTO THEIR PARENT CONTRACTS.
YOU WANT TO PUT A HAPPY GLOSS ON IT BUT, THE MESSAGE I HEAR IS ""WE WOULD NEVER EVER DO ANYTHING ABUSIVE, BUT JUST IN CASE, WE'LL CONTROL ALL THE OUTGOING MAIL, SWEAR THE PARENTS AND INMATES TO SECRECY, AND PUT IN A BUNCH OF LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO DISCLAIMING ANY LIABILITY IF ONE OF OUR PSYCH TECH'S GET TOO PHYSICAL."
IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK...
AND NOW, THE CURRENT PROPAGANDA IS THAT, WELL DUNDEE RANCH WAS JUST AN ABBERRATION. AS ONE OF THE PREVIOUS WWASP POSTERS SAID, IT WAS "JUST ONE IDIOT" (LIKE THE OTHER SCHOOLS WERE JUST ABERRATIONS -- ALL OF THEM CLOSED ONLY BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO)
Anonymous:
FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT CLAIMS NOT TO BE ABUSIVE (OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE YOU FOOLED. ) THEY SURE SPEND A LOT OF EFFORT (AND ATTORNEY TIME )PUTTING DISCLAIMERS AND WAIVERS INTO THEIR PARENT CONTRACTS.
YOU WANT TO PUT A HAPPY GLOSS ON IT BUT, THE MESSAGE I HEAR IS ""WE WOULD NEVER EVER DO ANYTHING ABUSIVE, BUT JUST IN CASE, WE'LL CONTROL ALL THE OUTGOING MAIL, SWEAR THE PARENTS AND INMATES TO SECRECY, AND PUT IN A BUNCH OF LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO DISCLAIMING ANY LIABILITY IF ONE OF OUR PSYCH TECH'S GET TOO PHYSICAL."
IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK...
AND NOW, THE CURRENT PROPAGANDA IS THAT, WELL DUNDEE RANCH WAS JUST AN ABBERRATION. AS ONE OF THE PREVIOUS WWASP POSTERS SAID, IT WAS "JUST ONE IDIOT" (LIKE THE OTHER SCHOOLS WERE JUST ABERRATIONS -- ALL OF THEM CLOSED ONLY BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO) ONCE YOU GET 3 OR 4 OR FIVE SCHOOLS CLOSING, YOU CAN'T PASS IT OFF AS AN ABERRATION ANYMORE. ITS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE
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