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Che Gookin:
Taking responsibility for you actions?

Damn girl.. staff words!

Antigen:

--- Quote from: "mcarter.fornits" ---The most interesting
part of the book is that of the very few programs she talked about, Cross Creek came out basically without a problem. She didn't like
it, but couldn't condemn it (aside from the fact that they wouldn't meet with her).

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I first met Maia when she attended the Drug Treatment Abuse conference in Bethesda, MD back in 2000. I wound up doing the website for the book. During that time, I asked her why she had chosen to publish such well known accounts instead of introducing any of the plethora of newer information that had come to light in the mean time. She told me that it was not her call but that of her editors and it was because of the cost of litigation. The stories she chose to outline were already proven, documented, sworn, unimpeachable. It costs a LOt--a lot of money, a lot or time, a lot of emotional energy--to bring a case to that point. Believe me, there's more out there. Lots more.

Now, as a man, will you assume everything's safe till some authority figure tells you otherwise or will you listen to your own blood?  Simple choice. Not easy,  by any stretch. But simple as Simon.

Antigen:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
Your blog is very helpful to other parents who are struggling with similar family issues.  Thank you for taking the time to posts as often as you did.  I am sure you help others with it.
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Sure, as a cautionary tale about what NOT to do.

mcarter.fornits:

--- Quote from: "Antigen" ---
--- Quote from: "mcarter.fornits" ---However I WILL NOT RESPOND to anonymous emails - since people have decided to post my name, Diane's phone numbers and a whole lot more information, then if you expect me to respond then I will expect the same - a minimum of your full name and location. Nor will I respond to flames.

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Let's make this clear right from the gate. YOU posted that personal identifying information about yourself in your profile at Blogger.com. You can't legitimately complain about anybody but yourself making that public. I suppose that when you did that, you just presumed that the whole world would agree with you and maybe send you love letters or business connects or something. Now you're haring from people who have been the beneficiaries of the same sort of "help" you have inflicted on your daughter. Yeah, it cost you a lot. That 30 year mortgage is nothing compared to the costs you have begun to realize but have yet to properly attribute to the correct cause.

Quit picking on the kid and take some responsibility for your own actions, please.
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Excuse me - but my wife's work phone numbers ARE NOT posted on my profile, nor on hers.  Nor is my father's name.  Sure, if you dig and research enough you can probably find that and a lot more.  For example, my wife's work phone numbers are associated with here job, period.

Now, you will be glad to know you have frightened her.  I hope those threatening us are proud of themselves - like the anti-abortionists going around with fetus's in a jar - you want to protect only certain people and hurt anyone else.  So rights only extend to those hiding behind the white sheets.

Nobody here has truly tried to discuss anything - but have loaded entry after entry with threats.  Things like telling my daughter that she should slit my throat in my sleep.  I guess things like that are good and proper, while doing the best I can to raise my children is wrong.   If the people here spent half the energy helping people that they do tearing others down then the world would be a better place.  

I have always taken responsibilities for myself and my family.  Always.  I don't get handouts, I work hard to provide for my family.  I faced some very difficult choices, and some people who disagree with my choices do nothing but threaten me because of them.

I don't see anyone here looking for any kind of balance nor truth.  It is all pushing their agenda.  For most of you, it is that EVERY program is wrong and abusive and EVERY person there has been abused.  There seem to be one or two others who go the other extreme.  Honestly - I believe a lot of the program, especially those overseas, had a lot of issues, and abuse probably did occur there at times.  But very little in the world is black and white.  Not everyone who went to a program was abused.  Anybody who believes in the extremes is deluding themselves, regardless of what the issues are.

Is the color of a t-shirt abusive - I don't think so.  Nor more so than rank symbols in the military are - they indicate EARNED privileges and responsibility.

And since it is after midnight here - Happy Easter to everybody.  I don't claim the label of being a 'Christian', though if any of the anonymous posters here do they should take a look at what this holiday is all about, and the man it celebrates.  For the rest - I hope you at least have a pleasant spring day - and beware of bunnies bearing eggs!

Che Gookin:
Ah yes, but in the military you join at Cross Creek Manor you are forced to go.

Likewise, there are numerous ways or denoting rank and privelage but in a program they generally all mean the same thing. The program has a poor staff to client ratio and depends upon the sheeple/upper stage kiss ups to do their supervision for you.

I don't completely agree with the idea that all color coding is immediately abusive. A common color for a group is one thing providing all of the kids wear the same color regardless of status.

Look dude.. I know you want to defend this program because it is easier than coming clean with the fact that you just squandered 3 years of the most precious time you'll ever have with your daughter. I can only hope you'll take the time to forgive yourself and seek her forgiveness later.

Basically, in before the storm because at some point your daughter's programming will wear off and she'll do one or two things:

A) Accept it all as a tragic error and let it go.

B) Do what I would do and rage.. hard.

But hey.. that is her choice as she is an adult and free to make those decisions. Certainly something a program never prepared her to do.

Least not in my experience in working at them for 4 years or so and in other child care capacities for longer.

Best of luck to you and hopefully the easter bunny shit in your mouth.

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