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PURE Rebuttal - It All Makes Sense Now
Anonymous:
Deborah may have no experience of wwasp but I do and I can assure you their academic program is nothing like homeschooling. I do not know of any homeschooling situation where a child is given an algebra book and nothing else for 6 hours a day, every day and is not allowed to take another course until he has finished that one. I also know of no home school situation where a child cannot ask a question or get any assistance when needed. That is the reality of the "academic" program at TB.
Judy
Anonymous:
ACTUALLY, there has been a death in the hands of wwasp! It was at TRANQUILITY BAY!
The only living proof of the so called "graduates" is the successful brainwashing methods they fell into while being in the hands of wwasp.
wwasp is bein sued. Every victim's story of wwasp matches. Another one of wwasps facility's was just shut down a few months ago while the owner was arrested.
Do your own research on wwasp, because if you put 2 and 2 together then you get what the world is about to see about wwasp.
However, they can offer you services.
That is if you want to pay a couple thousand dollars a month to have your kid illegally incarcerated while they lie to his or her parents while the kid is forced into submission into believing there brainwashing methods. There is no way around there beliefs, they are right no matter what and if you dont like it then it looks like your kid is in for a beating.
Thats the beauty of personal opionion's, thank you board.
scottT:
WWASP has a great academic program??? WHERE???
NOT AT CASA BY THE SEA (or any of their other institutions that I've ever heard of).
Their so-called "schools' are advertised as accredited by the Northwest Association of Schools and Colleges. However, that type of "accreditation" is the same as any university-based "distance education" course gets.
For example, you can contact UC-Berkeley, University of Nevada, or University of Arizona (and undoubtedly, many others near you), and for between $150 - 300 or so per course, get a workbook, text and lesson plan. Work through the assignments, pass the final exams and you get high school credit. (Sound familiar?) These credits are accepted pretty much anywhere. Why? -- because the university based distance education courses ("home schooling", if you prefer) are FULLY ACCREDITED BY THE NORTHWEST ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES.
Since the rule of thumb for WWASP schools is apparently 2 years of school for one year of high school credit, you can get the same accredited education for even LESS than the cost of their third world gulags. This leaves a lot left over to find real help for your child to the extent necessary.
[ This Message was edited by: scottT on 2003-08-25 07:54 ]
Anonymous:
Scott, what you suggest for a classroom with students ranging from 8th-12th grades? The "teachers" may be there to answer questions as in homeschooling, however, I see where the challenge would be in teaching a class for many different grades. Again, I personally don't see where the education part of the stay is the primary reason for them being there. If your child was admitted for academic reasons only, wouldn't a traditional boarding school have served the purpose much better? At least they have an academic program - Do many state or insurance funded treatment options have NO educational options for behavioral issue admissions? Don't the WWASP programs have high school graduations for students graduating their program? I've seen many in their magazine with many continuing on to college.
What were you told?
scottT:
Begging the pardon of the honorable anonymous poster, but MY intentions in sending my child to Casa are not germane to this discussion. This exchange pertains to the misleading characterization of WWASP-style academics.
The previous "anonymous" poster made the point that the WWASPs have a "great" academic program. I merely beg to differ -- a correspondence school class may be an "adequate"
program, but surely one must have higher expectations of a "great" program than leaving the kid to go thru a workbook without the assistance of qualified teachers. Is not an adequate correspondence class costing a few hundred dollars a superior value to a pretty much identical correspondence course costing thousands of dollars per month?
Moreover, as far as what I was told about the educational programs, again please forgive me, but I recall that the name of the organization here at issue the "World Wide Association of Specialty SCHOOLS and Programs"? The self-laudatory appellation of "SCHOOL" is something they (mis)-appropriated to their own use. It sure didn't come from me!
If WWASPs wants to call their institutions "SCHOOLS" --and their advertising and promotional materials certainly hold them out as purported "schools" -- then they should have those attributes that people reasonably expect schools to have (eg., teachers with at least minimal competency). LET THEM GET LICENSED AND REGULATED AS SCHOOLS.
If they want to call their institutions some kind of a therapeutic programs, THEN LET THEM GET LICENSED AND REGULATED AS MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS. (Oh wait, they tried that with their Brightway program, but it kinda flunked out. I guess not having teachers made their vocabulary skills a little weak -- they can't decide on what name accurately describes what they do).
[ This Message was edited by: scottT on 2003-08-25 16:42 ]
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