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Anonymous:
http://www.purerebuttal.com/

I agree that Carey has had some issues lately, but after reading the court documents WWASP vs. PURE, she may not be entirely off the planet in what she is saying.  I'm listening.

Anonymous:
There have been 6345 students enrolled in a wwasp program since 1999.  There have been no deaths, beatings, abuse cases proven.  They had a school in Samoa that closed - their choice, no abuse was ever proven despite a 48 hours inquiry in 1999.  They closed over a year after that show ran.  Why they had a program in the Czech Republic is beyond me, but knowing the government over there, they were wise to have already started the closure prior to the invasion by the local government.  It is common knowledge that Dundee Ranch was closed temporarily after a local official burst in telling the kids they didn't have to stay, the damage was uncontrollable as staff were forbidden to intervene.  Yes, I'm defending wwasp.  I am living proof that it works.  I'm glad to see that the whole fiasco on this web site is being exposed for what it really is.

Anonymous:
How many legitimate, high quality programs to treat kids have one facility closed after an investigation? Perhaps, extremely rarely, you get one that has a bad apple and doesn't deal with it properly and it gets shut.

How many have two?  OK, odds are low, but you know, it could happen.

Three?  Well, one in a million, but still, in the realm of possibility.

WWASP has had Samoa, Czech Republic, Dundee, Brightway Hospital (Utah), High Impact in Mexico and Sunrise (I think, I might have this name wrong) in Mexico shut down, all following allegations of abuse and/or fraud.  That's six.

That's not smoke, that's a gargantuan inferno.

When you *also* have hundreds of kids from dozens of facilities (many who have never met each other or emailed or anything) reporting similar tales of abuse, you have to be stark raving mad to submit your child to these same perpetrators.

If you think the program saved your kid, ask yourself:  how do I know this?  Did I send his identical twin elsewhere or leave him alone entirely and his identical twin OD'd and died?  No, you have no control group and no way of knowing if your kid would have outgrown his juvenile behavior the way 99% of all kids do.

Do you know what proportion of teenagers die of drugs and drink?  It's far less than the number who die in non-alcohol car accidents, which is still only .001 percent of the teen population.  The average American life expectancy is nearly 80.
This couldn't be if teen drug and drink deaths were common.  The WWASP folks are using bogus statistics and scare stories to frighten you into buying something that *does* have a good chance of harming your child severely.  

Why take that risk when there are other lower risk ways of helping that actually *do* have research evidence to support them?

Would you make the same decision if your kid had cancer-- let's believe the people who have only testimonials to support their treatment, not the docs at Sloan Kettering or Duke or Harvard?

Anonymous:
Thanks Sue *****? or one of your alter egos for your input - it won't fly anymore.  High Impact was not wwasp, Sunrise was not wwasp and Brightway hospital was an assessment facility. Keep on trying - maybe others will believe the lies made to look like "facts," but I don't.

Anonymous:
Brightway was an assessment facility which was shut down following an investigation by the state *because* it only referred people to WWASP-- it wasn't a legitimate assessment facility because kids are sent to WWASP without any legit psychiatric diagnosis.  Sure, WWASP shut it once the writing was on the wall that if they didn't, the state would, but that doesn't make it any better or any less connected.  Drug dealers move their operations around when the DEA is onto them too-- doesn't mean they aren't dealing drugs!

High Impact was directly connected to WWASP and there are lots of documents to prove that.

If High Impact *wasn't* connected to WWASP, why did WWASP try to build a High Impact facility in Costa Rica?

And btw, I have nothing whatsoever to do with Sue.

You are so far off as to who I am it is laughable.

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