Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
PURE Rebuttal - It All Makes Sense Now
Anonymous:
Oh, I believe it.
Anonymous:
I THINK IT IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS SINCE CAREY DIDNT GET THE GOODBYE SHE WANTED, SHE IS NOW ONE OF US, ANON!
NO ONE HERE CARES ABOUT PURE OR SUE, IT IS CAREYS OBESSION. WE ARE ALL AGAINST WWASPS/TEEN HELP AND THE MISREPRESENTATION AND ABUSE THAT MANY SUFFERED. LAST I CHECKED IT SIAD TEEN HELP INDUSTRY NOT PURE INDUSTRY.
CAREY, GET A LIFE PLEASE. TAKE YOUR ISSUES WITH PURE AND SUE TO THEM DIRECTLY NOT HERE. BTW; THAT PURE REBUTTAL IS OLD NEWS. MOVE ON.
Anonymous:
so lets see now, 6345 WWASP students? 98 percent satisfaction rate? Hmmm, lets do some math.
At our Discovery seminar, the facilitator told us that "based on their surveys" less than 5% of the kids left the program for financial reasons. THat means that of the people who pull their kids, an overwhelming 95% are dissatisfied for reasons other than cost.
We also hear that less than 30 percent of enrollees actually graduate. (I'm unclear whether that includes kid who leave because they reach the age of majority. Of course, with sufficient brainwashing, some parents can be convinced that they can coerce a child to stay beyond their 18th birthday)
Working the numbers, 70 percent of parents pull out before graduation, and 95 percent of them pull for reasons other than cost, that certainly suggests that the program has (at least) a dissatisfaction rate of approximately 66.5 percent.
Take heart!!! 2 out of 3 parents get it, eventually.
Anonymous:
This is PURE and simple - PURE, and the cohorts are posting their propaganda here yet again! It's SO OBVIOUS!! Try another forum where someone, just might, maybe?? Believe you!!
Anonymous:
If PURE were posting these attacks on WWASP, don't you think they would be saying, WWASP does X, but my fabulous programs don't!!! Call me at 800-XXX-XXXX and I'll sign you up for a small fee!!!
Or WWASP has an X % success rate, but ours have an X+10% success rate?
What the people here are saying is that humiliating and degrading tactics used by WWASP, Straight, Boot Camps, Wilderness Programs, "emotional growth" and "behavioral modification" programs *of any kind and pushed by anyone including WWASP, Pure, Straight, KIDS, etc. etc.* are not only inhumane but dangerous and hurtful and far less successful than proven alternatives.
Any program that uses "escorts" is suspect.
Any program that cuts kids off from communication with parents is suspect.
Any program that tells parents to disbelieve their childrens' reports of abuse or bad conditions is suspect because it means that genuine abuse is impossible to report and therefore allows the program to get away with whatever it chooses.
Any program that takes kids without an independent evaluation is suspect.
Any program that takes kids inpatient for smoking pot and drinking (short of diagnosed DSM alcohol *dependence*) is suspect.
Any program that takes kids sheerly because their parents want them taken is suspect: what if the parents are abusive themselves and just want rid of their kids?
Any program that doesn't allow teenagers to look at members of the opposite sex is suspect-- such an extreme level of control suggests that the program's motivation is to "break" people and make them compliant, not to help them change and grow.
Any program that uses brutal verbal attacks to "shoot down" kids' "street image" and uses "confrontation" is suspect.
Any program that doesn't use "the least restrictive option" first is suspect.
Any programs still standing? Not many, and so I don't think this post comes from PURE.
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