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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #150 on: February 09, 2009, 10:15:28 AM »
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As to AARC fees, again, this can't be made any simpler.  The Client base does not pay $150 a day.  That is the money AARC claims as a rate in order to justify taking millions in  charitable donations and tax-payer money.  The money AARC receives, it receives by lying about who they are and what they do.  Always have.
The Police do not prosecute anyone.  The Crown has to prosecute, and Gary Wong is firmly ensconced in the AARC web of political patronage.  Don't expect any prosecutions in the immediate future.

You are incorrect. The vast majority of client parents pay every penny of the $150. AARC looks very closely at finances and investments. Many have motgaged hmoes, cashed in RRSPs. That is why the need for so much donation and government funding is needed. WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING????
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #151 on: February 09, 2009, 10:27:05 AM »
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Since the Wiz is not and has never been a psychologist, he is not entitled to legally perform the Restricted Activity of psychic intervention in the Province of Alberta.  Nor are any of the Peer Counselors nor AARC's clinical staff.  As AARC claims to be treating a brain disease, and the Peer and Clinicals are the staff who perform said treatment, are they violating the law by performing a Restricted Act without being members of one of the Health Professions legally entitled to do so?

I would enthusiastically suggest that the above anonymous poster take some time to read over the Health Care legislation in Alberta as it pertains to performing Restricted Acts, as I have done.  Then, I might suggest that the reader talk to a few dozen former AARC clients, to see what they were told about the Wiz's credentials.  As I have done.  Then I would suggest contacting the College of Psychologists in Alberta to see if the Wiz holds any such credential.  As I have done.  This may be a daunting exercise as it would involve interacting with people who would be highly unlikely to divulge much infornmation to someone apparently very determined to obscure their identity.  However, by all means anonymous guest, let us know what you find out.
Already been done.  There are no laws that are being broken.  Everyone is working with the proper credentials, Ajax.  Talk to the local authorities if you still feel there is a problem.  They will explain it to you.
You are just making things up as you go along, ajax.
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #152 on: February 09, 2009, 10:28:44 AM »
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 These people consist of the Wiz, a phys ed teacher and guidance counselor; Natalie Imbach, a former client who has a degree in marriage and family counselling, likewise Gonewaydown Brown; Lyin' Bryan Campbell has a BA from the diploma mill

hhhmmm .. . very mature way of expressing oneself and these are just tame examples of how this person writes about AARC and staff there . . .  someone who should really be taken seriously      :clown:
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #153 on: February 09, 2009, 10:47:17 AM »
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This isn't complicated.  Is it fraudulent for a phys ed teacher to pass himself off as a psychologist, and to have the followers of his religious organization take money from the parents of clients, the government and charity groups while claiming to treat a brain disease with confessions and prayer?   The law is very clear as to who can perform Restricted Acts in Alberta, and AARC's treatment claims appear to constitute a Restricted Act.  The Peer and Clinical Staff are definitely not legally entitled to perform Restricted Acts.  Are they breaking the law or not?  
As to AARC fees, again, this can't be made any simpler.  The Client base does not pay $150 a day.  That is the money AARC claims as a rate in order to justify taking millions in  charitable donations and tax-payer money.  The money AARC receives, it receives by lying about who they are and what they do.  Always have.
The Police do not prosecute anyone.  The Crown has to prosecute, and Gary Wong is firmly ensconced in the AARC web of political patronage.  Don't expect any prosecutions in the immediate future.

Have you gone to the press about this Gary Wong person? How can the crown refuse to prosecute for imprisonment and torture?
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #154 on: February 09, 2009, 11:22:57 AM »
As the AARColytes posting here are all anonymous, it's impossible to know which one has said what, so I'll address this to the one who claims that there are no laws being broken, and that everyone has the proper credentials.  Are the staff at AARC performing a Restricted Activity?  Since neither the Wiz, the Peer Counselors, nor the Clinicals are licensed Health Care Professionals, are they legally permitted to perform such Restricted Activities, if they are indeed doing so?
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #155 on: February 09, 2009, 12:30:15 PM »
By now there is not a question in anyones mind whether or not anyone at AARC is working without the right credentials.  With all this talk I am sure everones paper work has been double and triple checked LOL.  Who says we dont do any good here.  If the police dont get the message by now they never will.  We will see what makes the papers tomorrow morning.  Ajax, this is your 15 minutes of glory.  If you are right we will read about it... the other way around... crickets!
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #156 on: February 09, 2009, 12:41:36 PM »
What paperwork was triple-checked, and who did the checking?  There is obviously a question as to whether or not the staff at AARC is performing Restricted Acts, and whether or not they are legally permitted to do so.
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #157 on: February 09, 2009, 12:51:55 PM »
With all this exposure AARC must have the tightest running ship in Canada LOL.  The cops are probably tired of running background checks on everyone and everyones lives are an open book by now.  We are doing our part of keep them honest!
I am just surprised they never found anything after all this checking.
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #158 on: February 09, 2009, 12:57:10 PM »
Sorry, what was checked, and by whom?
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Canadian West."
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #159 on: February 09, 2009, 01:10:24 PM »
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Sorry, what was checked, and by whom?

Oh, people here have been calling the police, accusing them of fraud, not having degrees.  One guy was pissed because the owner use to play ice hockey and married a woman who was over weight and felt this disqualified him from working at a rehab.  We have talked about it on fornits for years yet not one parking ticket has been uncovered.  I think the cops are getting a little giddy (or maybe pissed) at all the people thinking there is a conspricy with the governement.  We keep rattling the cage, though, hoping something will drop out.  Its fun to be part of all of this, gives us all something to be pissed at and I thank you for that.
How about we start saying that the kids are brainwahsed again?  We havent done that one in awhile, the police love to get those phone calls.
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #160 on: February 09, 2009, 01:24:28 PM »
Who accused the police of fraud?  Additionally, who is the owner of AARC?  Since you seem to have an impression of the emotional state of the police, apparently giddy, what else did the police convey to you about their understanding of AARC?
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Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #161 on: February 09, 2009, 02:40:03 PM »
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Who accused the police of fraud?  Additionally, who is the owner of AARC?  Since you seem to have an impression of the emotional state of the police, apparently giddy, what else did the police convey to you about their understanding of AARC?

You should call them yourself!  I think you would be surprised.  Talk to them about AARC and tell them what you think you know and then sit back and listen to what they say.  Dont be afraid.  Step outside of the safety and anonymity of fornits for a change and see the feed back you get there.
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #162 on: February 09, 2009, 02:50:03 PM »
Did you say you're going to step outside of the anonimity of Fornits?  Let us know how your inquiries to the police turn out!
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Canadian West."
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #163 on: February 09, 2009, 03:02:17 PM »
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Did you say you're going to step outside of the anonimity of Fornits?  Let us know how your inquiries to the police turn out!

You and I both knew you would never call.  Because you would have to prove what you say and give them your name.  Its a little different then just blowing off steam behind a veil on the internet.  You would shake in your boots if they asked you to prove anything you say here.
Stay here and feel safe, Ajax.
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Re: Horse Gone, Closing Barn Door
« Reply #164 on: February 09, 2009, 03:08:49 PM »
As all of you AARColytes are still posting anonymously, I don't know which of you is which.  One of you said you were accusing the police of fraud, and one of you said that the police are giddy about AARC.  I'm sure that all readers would appreciate greatly if you let us in on more of what the police imparted to you about their view of AARC.  All of those people to whom I have spoken who have complained to the police about AARC have been received without the skepticism that existed in the past.  
For the AARColyte who found the police to be giddy about AARC, please go on!
Here's an additional challenge for all AARColytes.  Disprove what I have said.  Disprove the fact that the Wiz is a phys ed teacher and guidance counselor with no license to perform psychic interventions.
Disprove the fact that the Wiz worked at Kids.
Disprove the fact that the AARC clinical staff are not licensed to perform psychic interventions.
Disprove the fact the AARC method is is identical to Kids.
Disprove the fact that AARC began as Kids and changed it's name when it couldn't get a license.
On your mark, get set, go!
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MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992
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