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Whooter:
Maybe the staff member should be fired for this.  I dont know him or have access to his background.  I wasnt there when the audit team spoke to him.  Reading a few lines on the internet doesnt qualify me to decide if a person should loss their job or not.  I think we can find some comfort in the fact that the incidents (although conflicting) were well documented and some discomfort in the fact that the stories did not line up.  So I can see both sides of the issue and see why many here would want this staff person removed.
The consensus of the audit team and school management team is to get the staff person some more training.



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Whooter:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---...after my first pass I see basically paperwork issues, not enough fire drills, using the wrong process to document background checks, exceeding restraint time limits,  kid punched out a staff member causing a fight etc.  Looks like the inspection team went over that place with a fine toothed comb but didn’t find anything that warranted action against them accept a response and follow-up.

So overall the program seemed to be in full compliance with no gaping holes with the exception of a staff member who participated in a restraint who had not had up to date training, lost his cool, which resulted in one of the kids getting a bloody mouth.  It seemed to be concluded that the program needs to rewrite their policy of removing the kids shoes and replacing it with another which will be equally effective in keeping kids from running.
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Mmm. I don't think so. From V 512 · 27D .0304 Client Rights - Harm, Abuse, Neglect:

This deficiency constitutes a Type B rule violation. An administrative penalty of $200.00 is per day will be imposed for failure to correct within 45 days.[/list]
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This fine is to increase the pain level a little more so that the school doesnt respond with "The next training session in our area isnt until 6 months from now."  The $200 a day makes it more cost effective for the school to fly this staff person out for training ASAP.  It lights a little fire under them.  Thats all... $200 a day is $6,000 a month which tips the scales and makes for a better business decision to get the training done sooner.

Things like scheduling extra fire drills is not difficult to implement and probably history has shown they dont need to hold a monetary fine over their heads to get the changes done.



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Troll Control:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Maybe the staff member should be fired for this.
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No maybe's.  This guy should have been terminated on the spot.  I worked with a much rougher population than this (mostly straght from jail) and never had a physical, ever.  This is the axiomatic Golden Rule for working with kids: YOU DON'T ASSAULT THEM, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO.  

There's just no excuse for it.  It shows bad character.  It's a bad fit for the profession.  And as long as he's there he will be made an issue by people like us, causing further damage to the facility's reputation, so it's bad for business as well.  Firing that guy is a complete no-brainer from all perspectives.

Whooter:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Maybe the staff member should be fired for this.
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No maybe's.  This guy should have been terminated on the spot.  I worked with a much rougher population than this (mostly straght from jail) and never had a physical, ever.  This is the axiomatic Golden Rule for working with kids: YOU DON'T ASSAULT THEM, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO.  

There's just no excuse for it.  It shows bad character.  It's a bad fit for the profession.  And as long as he's there he will be made an issue by people like us, causing further damage to the facility's reputation, so it's bad for business as well.  Firing that guy is a complete no-brainer from all perspectives.
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You may be right.  But we dont have all the facts, dont know this guy or his history and my view is that it should be left to those people who were closer to the situation and are better able to evaluate it.  Determining if a person should lose there job or not based on a few lines in a report is a little too reckless for me.  



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DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Thanks Ursus, after my first pass I see basically paperwork issues, not enough fire drills, using the wrong process to document background checks, exceeding restraint time limits,  kid punched out a staff member causing a fight etc.  Looks like the inspection team went over that place with a fine toothed comb but didn’t find anything that warranted action against them accept a response and follow-up.

So overall the program seemed to be in full compliance with no gaping holes with the exception of a staff member who participated in a restraint who had not had up to date training, lost his cool, which resulted in one of the kids getting a bloody mouth.  It seemed to be concluded that the program needs to rewrite their policy of removing the kids shoes and replacing it with another which will be equally effective in keeping kids from running.

It would be interesting to see the corrective action responses to some of the actions particularly restraint training and policy.
 
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Oh boy, paperwork discrepancies and a bloody lip. Yep need a congressional hearing on this one. No wonder why Ursus wanted to play in the mud,ya got noth'in and never had noth'in.
I love it when your ethics are on the screen, you just keep delivering over and over.
Kids who are belligerent, hostile and out of control, staff who are young and learning. Let me see here, hundreds of thousands of children have gone through these programs and we have a isolated bloody lip here.
I will not even comment on paper issues, with all of America in disrepair as we speak bridges, roads, public schools, ect....were going to chastise Trails Carolina for their paperwork issues.
Yeh guys lets get the extremist engine running.

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