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DAYTOP Did Me Great Harm in the Long Run
SEKTO:
Yes, you are right.
But that's not what I am getting at and (with respect) is beside the point.
My point is, that I am not sure what the applicable laws of the State of TX were with respect to that kind of thing around '92-'94; in other words, I do not know whether she would have been legally required to disclose that kind of information to us at that time or not.
In my mind, it's not about whether she should have been obligated to disclose her status or not, it's whether she, and the rest of the DAYTOP staff who knew, were breaking the law.
If she didn't tell us her status, but the law (at least the way it was back in those days) would have required her to, then she would have been in violation of the law. And if this is indeed the case, it's another thing they should be held accountable for. After all, they're all about accountability, right?
Antigen:
Great thread! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I have to go find some grub right now, then I'll be back later to catch up.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "SEKTO" ---After all, they're all about accountability, right?
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NO, Sekto, they are all about your accountability. They, for their part, have the holy caress of the indomitable Catholic Church to allay their sins. And we all know just how accountable those "holy caresses" have been in the past, don't we now?
On another note, I have managed to re-find a piece on 'confrontational therapy' which mentions Daytop in a historical sense. You might find it interesting... I posted it here:
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=26291
SEKTO:
--- Quote ---Motivational Litmus Tests at Admission: Forced confession at the end of a confrontational intake interview that one was a baby, was stupid and needed help, and the surrendering of something of value to demonstrate one's commitment to recovery (e.g., money, property, one's hair).
Pull-ups: Immediate feedback from one community member to another regarding inappropriate behavior.
Image work: Demands to change physical appearance and demeanor (everything from how one talked to how one walked).
Haircut: A group session in which a relatively new member is "taken apart" by community elders and given prescriptions for improving his or her attitudes and behavior.
Learning Experience: An assignment intended as a form of self-confrontation and communication to other community members. Examples include being "busted" from a higher status position to the dishpan; wearing a diaper, a toilet seat or a sign (e.g., "I'm a baby. Please help me grow up.") for a prescribed period of time; or having one's head shaved.
The Synanon Game: A no-holds-barred group therapy that utilized verbal attack and ridicule to strip the participant's exterior image and defenses while supposedly toughening them on the inside.
Probes, Reaches, Trips, Marathons & Stews: Versions of the Synanon Game that could extend for prolonged periods of time (six to eight hours, to days).
The Fireplace Ritual (General Meeting): Meeting called of the whole community to confront a single individual's behavior.
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This really takes me back, wow.
Remember, everything I am telling you was taking place in TX, and the whole atmosphere and attitude about "treatment" and "rehabilitation" down there, whether it's some outpatient facility for Johnny Pothead or a maximum-security prison, is entirely punitive in its approach.
This punitive approach to "treatment" that was the "big thing" in TX the early '90s hurt a lot more people than it helped, needless to say.
DAYTOP terminology and practice in my day included the "haircuts"; we'd use the term "pull up", also we'd call it "reeling in"; we also called them "learning experiences or L.E.-s"; we'd do "Image work" and this was also called "learning to recognize one's physical attitudes;" we did the encounter groups once or twice a week, those two marathon groups, the one "Gut Check" session in the year and a half or so that I was there, and "haircuts" whenever they were considered necessary.
The name of the annual DAYTOP Halloween party/dance was Gaudenzia.
Each new member (I forget the term for newer members and think that they were simply called "younger members") was assigned a "big brother" or "big sister" to help them adjust to the program and to keep them "reeled in" properly.
Also there was a lot of the use of the word "gut," as in "you need to check your gut" or "that makes my gut flip," etc.
For example: if somebody new was "copping an attitude" we'd "reel them in" by arranging a "haircut" with that person's "big brother" and some "coordinators" or "counselors." We'd confront this person on their "image problem" and "physical attitudes" and then after the "haircut" they'd be given an "L.E." like sitting in The Chair for awhile with a sign on their back, or walking around with a sign that said, "ask me to bark like a dog" or a pacifier on a string around their neck. If the person would still not come around, then they'd be confronted in the "encounter group" and then if they were still had not made the proper attitude adjustment they'd be "called out" before the entire "DAYTOP family" in "morning meeting," which I suppose was a variation of the Fireplace Ritual, in an effort to help "pull them up."
More later. My head is spinning, and I need time to process and recollect this stuff.
Antigen:
--- Quote from: "psy" ---As for your question about DAYTOP and it's connections to NYC organized crime. I've forwarded that question to my friend (Antigen) who knows a lot more than I about DAYTOP's connections.
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Here's one. http://www.thestraights.com/theprogram/ ... story2.htm Look at the sidebar to the right of the article, a long and detailed plug for "Duck in a Raincoat: An Unauthorized Portrait of Joe Ricci.
Nobody knows for sure where Seed founder, Art Barker was indoctrinated but some folks think it was Daytop. He also had track affiliations and landed up with one of his ardent followers as deputy mayor of Dania (Port Everglades....shady fuckin little town who's boudaries are so thoroughly jerrymandered they look like a bad jigsaw puzzle.)
--- Quote from: "ibid ~ editorials" ---Footnotes:
a. Keeping this editorial on point with Straight, Inc., it should be noted that when Dr. Dan Casriel and Father William O'Brien setup Daytop, the world's first successful Synanon imitator, they hired a Synanon director named David Deitch to direct it. They apparently did not know that David Deitch was an admirer of Ernesto Che Guevara--Fidel Castro's right hand man. Later Casriel and O'Brien would claim that Deitch was trying to use synanons to turn Daytop into a left wing commune, and they managed to have Deitch removed.
http://www.thestraights.com/news/editor ... tornot.htm
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That's about all I got on that.
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