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anon:
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 10:13 ]
Carey:
Karen,
I am not Anon. I am not afraid to say what I think.
I would not call Ryan a liar, ever. If he said it happen to him, then who am I to say it did not. You show your stupid true colors more and more everytime you open your mouth. Now wonder you fell for the propaganda that WWASP sold you.
But you know what, I will say this. My boys never witnessed beatings. They witnessed kids being restrained. They witnessed fair skin kids be put out in the sun in order to be purposely sunburned in order to inflict pain. They themselves were made to kneel on rough concrete floors for hours. They were made to lay flat on their stomachs with their chins up off of the floor for hours. They were made to sit in certain positions for hours. Of course all of these were intended to cause pain, in which they did. They were told that I did not love them because if I did I would know that Dundee was the best place for them and I would leave them there. The were belittled over and over again. MY BOYS WERE ABUSED!
You can kiss my ass! And let me tell you again, I am not afraid to say what I think about you, Sue or anybody else. As a matter of fact you hold on, I am going to cut and paste your connection with Sue in the next post.
I will be right back!
Anonymous:
KAREN - YOU ARE A GOOD SOUL. YOU AND MANY OF US WERE DUPED BY WWASPS.
AS I SAID EARLIER, "IGNORE CAREY", SHE ISN'T WORTH OUR TIME. HER HATRED FOR OTHERS IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT TO HER THAN THE ABUSE TO HER! HER CONSTANT DEGRADING OF OTHER PEOPLE IS A PROJECTION OF HER OWN IGNORNANCE. (NOW SHE IS GOING TO PROVE HER IGNORNANCE, GIVE US A BREAK). HOPE SHE KNOWS THAT WE KNOW ALL EMAILS CAN BE "ALTERED" TO HER LIKING, SO ANY POSTS SHE PUTS UP, HOW ARE WE TO KNOW THEY ARE REAL.
MAYBE BECAUSE SHE IS NOT IN THE SPOTLIGHT, JEALOUSLY IS A EVIL THING, AND BOY IS SHE JEALOUS.
RYAN, KEEP UP YOUR GOOD WORK, YOU ARE A VOICE TO MANY THAT NEED YOU. WE ARE NOT HERE TO JUDGE YOU ONLY SUPPORT YOU.
CAREY - YOU HAVE LOST YOUR CREDIBILITY WITH MANY OF US.
Carey:
This is the email I received from Sue, about you.
"As you may or may not have been in touch with Karen Burnett yet, her son was at Dundee with your twins. He is speaking of the constant beatings etc. (Her story will be my Jan. 2003 Newsletter with the explanation of my Lawsuit).
You may want to contact her at 502-955-XXX or email kayzee2858@msn.com. Her son Nathan, went to a real program and recently came home. She didn't know of the abuse until she actually asked her son. He just commented that he thought she knew. Nathan is now 18 and was 17 in the program up to last August. They are located in KY. She contacted me after she received my lawsuit in the mail. That was WWASP's latest desperate tactic. It backfired with Karen and others. Many that never knew me, looked me up and now support me."
Sounds to me like you have been coached a little on what to say. Doesn't WWASP do that to the parents it recruits? Oh, I forgot, you are in the business of sending kids to unregulated programs just like Sue and WWASP. That explains the loyalty to Sue and the need to bash WWASP all the while embelishing the truth.
My boys and my family do not need to embelish the truth. We do not need to try and gain followers/beleivers of parents who are at wits end. We don't try and offer advice on solutions and programs that we admit to knowing nothing about because we are not trying to sell an alternative. We deal with our own problems and our own issues with professionals, real professionals, who actually can claim to be educated and trained and who know us and our situation in depth. We are not trying to profit off of WWASP's fall.
We are trying to recover from the pain that we, yes we my whole family, has suffered as a result of Dundee. But we did not only suffer because of Dundee. There are others who have added to that pain...Sue being one of them. Amberly being another. She knew I wanted my boys out. My very first email was to her, when she was director. In that email I told her that I had joint custody of my boys and that I wanted them out. She knew I was going to court. She could have come forward and testified. But she like Sue, was more worried about saving her own butt.
We are trying to help others to not make the mistake that was made in our family. I want all of this to be over. I wish I could walk away and never have to think about this whole thing again. But I can't. There is far to much pain! And not that I want your simpathy, but as I write this I cry, it hurts me deeply.
Anonymous:
CAREY - FIND A LOCAL PSYCH. HOSPITAL FOR YOURSELF AND MOVE ON. YOU ARE STILL SHOWING YOUR NEED FOR INTENSE THERAPY.
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