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Carey:
Anon,  the difference between you and me is...I am real and you are not.  You say it in your name!

Deborah:
Anon wrote:
CAREY - YOU HAVE LOST YOUR CREDIBILITY WITH MANY OF US.

Who are the "many" of us? Who anon, are you, and the "many" you speak for? Provide names? Step out from under the paper bag and give some credibility to yourself and comments. What evidence do you possess that might prove that Carey is "jealous" or "supportive of abuse"? It sounds like the imaginings of a teen who has it out for Carey because she questioned his/her hero's involvement in the movie, and therefore wants to have her banned from the In group.

And...anon, if you would stop blathering about your imaginings (Carey being jealous and supportive of abuse) long enough to actually read her story, you'd know that her husband didn't have custody. You are wasting space on this message board constantly bemoaning your imaginings. Get over it. We heard your imaginings the first time.

There are known and unknown factions battling on this message board. There's Carey, Karen, Sue?, and who knows who else. This isn't the appropriate place for that, imho. Most of the readers here don't know the history between you people, or who's who, or what's what. It's not very considerate to expect people to piece together a story with little snipet of information here and there. A little of from many threads.

For me to take anything seriously, there must be an accusation followed by some form of proof to support it. When proof isn't provided, I write it off as someone venting, using the time and attention of others to listen to their personal issues or lame attempts to discredit someone.

The only people in this discussion that I  respect and take seriously are Carey and Karen who don't hide behind a paper bag, who allow other's to question their thinking and motives. The rest of you anon posters don't carry much weight with me. (Perhaps I should exaggerate here and say, don't carry much weight with "the rest of us"- power in numbers.)

I think the thing we should all notice and be aware of is the insidious paranoia that involvement with these types of facilities can create. People don't know who to trust. When I first became involved and started speaking out about a non-WWASP program, I was hesitant to respond to messages I received privately for fear it was a staff member attempting to pull something out of me that they could use against me. I had only shared my experience, yet was threatened- they would take legal action if I didn't cease and desist speaking negatively about the facility.

I appreciate all action taken against any program, by any person, for any reason.

Deborah

Anonymous:
deborah,

this board offers anon posting, it doesnt mean we are less credible but I respect your opinion.

i am glad carey has a friend in you but i for one with many others have been burned by her so called desire to tell the truth. i know i will be bashed for that, but that is my opinion. truth is good, but letting the other side know what we have is stupid.  All for a desire to be recognized is what we think.  yes we, there is a big group of anti wwaspers and carey thinks of us as rich dumb parents. but we have learned to ignore her and her stupid antics and mud slinging. i just thought you should know there is always 2 sides to a story, and you dont know all the history either. signed anon

Anonymous:
"After a heated "negotiation" with school authorities and a $60,000 bribe, Ryan was allowed to leave with his father".

This kid and his family will be making $$ from this, I'm only assuming.

Sensationalism sells.  This site is fictitious in the worst possible way.  But it will sell for those liking this sort of movie, I'm sure.

There is no way in hell that this dad couldn't have just gone down there, signed the papers and left with Ryan.  A bribe, and 60,000k at that?? No way in hell again.  Parents don't give up custody or their parental rights.  This dad was probably LOOKING for any reason to bring him home in the first place.  A lot of dad's feel guilty when their kid is beyond their control.  

Ryan is a liar, but money talks.

Carey:
I would like to hear the story of this $60,000 bribe.  It does not make any sense.  Who bribed who and why?

Did the school pay the parents $60,000 to remain silent about the abuse? That would be a bribe.  Maybe these parents had real proof of abuse, like pictures or something.  If so, these parents should be held accountable, almost as an accomplice, as they left other kids in harms way.  It would indicate they had knowledge of abuse and were paid to not report it.

If the parents bribed the school to release the child...well, that would have to be pure stupidity on the parents part.

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