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Carey:
I wanted to start a new thread because I believe my topic was lost in some of the other discussions on the other Coldwater thread.

I believe that the media attention that Ryan recieved was sought in order to help to sell this movie.  

I have asked Tim why he went to Casa to do an article on Case and he told me:

"I found out about Casa when a mother having a moment of doubt called me and asked me to find out about the welfare of her son."

Why is there nothing in his story about this mother and her son?  Tim told me she wanted to remain anonymous.  Well, ok, but...it seems to me that she could have remained anonymous and he still could have reported on the purpose of his trip and on what happened with her and her son.  But he did not, instead he focused on Ryan...and by the way Ryan's story mirros Chris's son's story.

It should bother all of us that our "two lead plantiffs" are endorsing a fiction movie. And, it should also bother all of us that the media may have been pulled into this in order to help to sell this movie.

Everyone who endorces this movie is hurting our fight.  People have to know that we know the difference between fact and fiction.  If our stories are not real enough or dramatic enough to make a real movie about, then we have big problems.  

By the way at one time Sue asked me if she could put my statement on her web site.  I told her sure...but then she asked me if I could spruce it up a little more, make it a little more sensational.  I told her no.  So, she never put it up, it was not "fictional" enough or "dramatic" enough for her.  This was one of the many times in which the real Sue started showing through and I started to doubt her motives.  I see this movie in quite the same way.  WE DO NOT HAVE TO SELL WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THESE PLACES WITH A FICTIONAL MOVIE.

Chris, if I do not spell everything correctly, please forgive me and focus on the real issue.

anon:
//By the way at one time Sue asked me if she could put my statement on her web site. I told her sure...but then she asked me if I could spruce it up a little more, make it a little more sensational. I told her no. So, she never put it up, it was not "fictional" enough or "dramatic" enough for her.//

Carey Bock - I'm shocked at you.
This is a lie and you know it.
Sue and I don't see eye to eye on everything, and we have butted heads rather hard of late - but I know for sure and certain, she never asked anyone for permission to "spruce up" their account!
And so do you.
This is an outrageous thing to say, and you might want to consider the possibility its slander for real.
Its bad enough when you go speculating your paranoid ranting in public - but to make claims about people you know are false  - and this is what your doing - is way beyond bad.
I've come to the conclusion, you aren't just mentally ill, but you are a horrible person.

Carey:
Karen,

I have a copy of the email in which Sue asked me to add more to my statement than I had wrote. I have every email ever sent to me from Sue, etal. I make statements that I can back up.  Have you not learned that by now.

Please stick your nose into something you know something about!  

You are constantly sticking your nose into things that that you have no first hand knowledge on

and

you are constantly claiming to be some kind of expert on things you know nothing about.
 
Carey

Anonymous:
Karen - how do you KNOW that Sue didn't ask Carey to spruce up her account of what her son's said happened?  I DON'T doubt that Sue Scheff asked her to do this considering what she is doing for a living.

You said to Carey, " I've come to the conclusion, you aren't just mentally ill, but you are a horrible person."  

Karen, don't you know by now that statements like this are a mirror of yourself??

Carey - If Tim doesn't want to divulge the info, that's his right as a reporter.  If Tim checked things out himself and all was okay and the mom decided that it was only her fears running her doubts about Casa and has decided to keep her kid in there, then what's it to you?  What's it to anyone?  It's a private thing between them.  If this mom wants to talk to you, then fine.  Keep digging.

spots:
Dear Carey (for whom I have great admiration and support for her efforts in closing WWASPS)...

Somewhere in the '70's, there was a movie...Silkwood was the title, I think.  I know it garnered an academy award for Supporting Actress for Cher.  It was a FICTIONAL movie about a real situation.

Karen Silkwood was a person of...uhmm...less than stellar social standing.  She was a lower-wage technician in an atomic reactor power plant in, I think, Texas.  She lived with her boyfriend, and Cher's character (who loved her lesbian-style), and she was tatooed, smoked pot, etc.  Regardless of her social stature, she realized that there were major problems in leakages, malfunctions, etc. in this atomic plant, which were being covered up by minor-league bureaucratic functionaries.  She began to "leak" information to the press.  She had made an appointment to finally meet with a powerful reporter on a certain night to fully document the information she stumbled across.  On the way to meet him, her car was mysteriously forced off the road, and she was killed.

What the world remembers from this FICTIONAL movie???  That dumb-shits control powerful and dangerous locations.  That some people can get away with murder.  That the smallest voice can make major changes.  That, if a newspaper reporter could not get his story, a fictional movie without the constraints of slander, can.  

Let "Coldwater" do their story.  Unless everyone lives happily ever after in this movie and the parents are proven to be correct after all in incarcerating their kids for years, it will have impact. I can't imagine a scenario where WWASPS-type facilities come off the hero.

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