CEDU opens under new ownership

[Anonymous]

Anyone know anything about this?

[psy]

Anyone know anything about this?

CEDU never died.  It just changed form into clones.  If somebody is buying up and centralizing CEDU schools, good.  It means one big umbrella to collapse down on them, like the last time CEDU was brought down.

from the above article:

WHAT CAUSED

THE DOWNFALL?

Several CEDU employees pointed to pending litigation against CEDU Education and citations received by the schools as probable contributors to the company's downfall.

In mid-February the California Department of Social Services, Community Care Licensing Division, issued several citations at the two Running Springs campuses. At a non-compliance conference on March 10, CEDU reportedly admitted it had systematically violated the rights of children under its care. However, a copy of that document was not made available at press time.

Two lawsuits are currently pending in San Bernardino Superior Court against CEDU. The first involves a New York father and his daughter alleging CEDU interfered with their right to speak, write and visit.

George Locker from New York, who filed his suit in September of last year, explained "there are a number of lawsuits pending in San Bernardino County, and also in Idaho. In Idaho, a group of parents and children allege a pattern of neglect and abuse at two CEDU facilities, one of which closed soon after that lawsuit was commenced.

"As the truth has emerged about CEDU," Locker stated, "it simply became unviable."

The family of Daniel Yuen filed the second suit. Yuen, 17, was last seen leaving CEDU on Feb. 8, 2004, just two weeks after he arrived in Running Springs. He was 16 at the time of his disappearance.

"My son was last seen in the San Diego area," the boy's father, Wayne Yuen stated. "I wished I never sent my son over there and he does not have to run away. He still is missing and we wish he is safe and coming home soon."

I think I heard something about the impending resurrection, though.  Use the forum's search function or search here using Google with site:fornits.com after whatever search terms.  If you find an article that won't click through, try the "cached" link.

[Anonymous]

OK, thanks, just so you know though: the fornits search function no workee.

if you have a list of clones...and you are willing to post them, that would be...amazing?

[Anonymous]

See Fornits Wiki article "CEDU rebourn"

Universal Health Services - claimed to be the third largest hospital management company in the United States bought three of the facilities. They did open late in 2006. It is not known how much of the old program structure, which have been preserved

It was written some time ago before we investigated further.

Now we know that a lot of the activities were renamed by the UNSINC management to remove historical connections to the Synanon cult - new names, but still the same damaging methods. Propheets is now called Workshops.

The new owner also owns Provo Canyon School, so they have something that the previous owner didn't have - an option for a super lockdown.

Mount Bachelor Academy - once marketed along with CEDU - never closed but developed their own version of the CEDU program and are as 2008 still the flagship among AEG 24 programs.

Only the California programs are not open. The campus was sold to a religious organisation, who uses it for summer camps and meetings.

[AuntieEm2]

Rocky Mountain Academy merged with Boulder Creek Academy. They operate on what I'm told is the "Cow Creek Campus" in Bonner's Ferry under the BCA name. Ascent and Northwest Academy also still operating as far as I know. Many more, I'm sure. Kim's suggestion of the wiki will probably tell you what you want to know.

A relatively new entry in the CEDU clones is Innercept near Coer D'Alene, a finishing school for 18-24 year olds, though it has recently expanded to serve younger students. Operated by George Ulrich "MD" of Idaho Behavioral Health Services. More on the forntis wiki.
 
Sadly, CEDU is alive and well and still abusing children.

Auntie Em

[Anonymous]

Innercept is among those programs categorized as CEDU Spin-off, which is facilities, which were opened by former CEDU staff, using the concept from CEDU in some form.

Carlbrook and Shortridge are among those, which are still in operation.

But also Campbell Park in New Zealand and Amity in Italy - both now closed - are in this category. Casacade in California were one. There is no risk of a school opening i Italy again. No responsible american parent would send their child to Italy after Amanda Knox was framed as revenge because our soldiers shot an Italian spy by mistake in Iraq.

Some claim that bills were left unpaid in both California and New Zealand, so they would not open again.

But it seems that Idaho has sadly plenty of room for more programs. All it takes is for ex-staff to join together and get going.

[Anonymous]

No responsible american parent would send their child to Italy

I don't see your point, there; no responsible parent would get involved in any of this to begin with.

[TheWho]

No responsible american parent would send their child to Italy

I don't see your point, there; no responsible parent would get involved in any of this to begin with.

If the kids were responsible for their actions and listened to their parents the parents would not be put into a position of having to send the kid away for help.  All the programs would go out of business.

[Anonymous]

No responsible american parent would send their child to Italy

I don't see your point, there; no responsible parent would get involved in any of this to begin with.

If the kids were responsible for their actions and listened to their parents the parents would not be put into a position of having to send the kid away for help.  All the programs would go out of business.

If the parents did their job and actually PARENTED their child, there would be no need for programs.

[Botched Programming]

If the parents did their job and actually PARENTED their child, there would be no need for programs.

If these program propaganda sales people would not lie to parents and tell them that their kid is going to die without the help of a program there would be no kids abused in programs

And if the pieces of shit owners of these torture chamber for profit would get right with their makers, they would shut the doors on their own and request mercy for their actions..... Abuse kids in the name of a dollar.

[TheWho]

If the parents did their job and actually PARENTED their child, there would be no need for programs.

Any of the parents who have had kids in programs and even the kids themselves realize the problem isn’t parenting issues (with most of the cases).  The parenting issues are dealt with on the local level, thru family therapy in most cases.  The rest of the siblings are typically doing fine.  The posters who spew this stuff are typically just kids who are still angry with their parents for forcing them to seek outside help.  99% of the kids get thru the rough spots of teen years on their own but there are a few that just don’t respond well at home or with local services and need further help.

There are parents that over react and if you match them with an edcon who is a little ambitious on getting a placement fee then you can get kids who could be placed into programs unnecessarily.  On top of that there are programs which could be a bad match for the child in which the child would not benefit from or become worse.

So the reasons for kids being placed in programs is multifaceted and each case needs to be looked at individually.



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[psy]

So the reasons for kids being placed in programs is multifaceted and each case needs to be looked at individually.

If by "individually" you mean due process with a right to appeal plus guaranteed long term legal representation and no forced treatment of any kind whatsoever ever, then yes, I agree.  If kids are going to be held against their will (imprisoned), you might as well offer them the same rights they would get as prisoners (even minors).

[psy]

OK, thanks, just so you know though: the fornits search function no workee.

if you have a list of clones...and you are willing to post them, that would be...amazing?

Try the fornits Wiki.  If it's not there, or if it's not complete, it needs to be done, IMO.

[TheWho]

So the reasons for kids being placed in programs is multifaceted and each case needs to be looked at individually.

If by "individually" you mean due process with a right to appeal plus guaranteed long term legal representation and no forced treatment of any kind whatsoever ever, then yes, I agree.  If kids are going to be held against their will (imprisoned), you might as well offer them the same rights they would get as prisoners (even minors).

No, what is meant by individual is as it applies to “Each family”.  Some kids are not responding to local services, others have drug issues and still others have family/personal issues that can not be dealt with or successfully dealt with locally etc.

As far as representation or due process, I don’t think we can apply this to kids.  Kids will always be held against their will (whether it be at home or away) until they become old enough to take care of themselves.  This is the way it is in every family.  As far as giving them the same rights as prisoners, I don’t think this would be very effective for most.  Kids need much more exercise then prison offers and could do without the HBO 24/7.  They would be better off at home or someplace where they would be getting help to get back on track. vs a prison setting.
I have heard many here indicate that prison life would be better for these kids but it would be a disaster.  Statements like these I believe are born out of hatred for the programs that some here attended and would not benifit any child in my opinion.

I think if we could get the opinion of a childs guidance counselor or therapist prior to placement this could be a huge step in deterring kids from being placed unnecessarily.



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[TheWho]

For many decades, civil liability laws held parents at least partly responsible for damages caused by their children. Also, child welfare law included actions against those who contributed to the delinquency of a minor. By the 1990s, in response to rising juvenile crime rates, communities and states passed stronger laws about parental responsibility. Several states have enacted laws making parents criminally responsible for their children's crimes.

For example, in California, parents can be prosecuted for "gross negligence"—failing to supervise their children adequately. If convicted, they can receive a sentence of up to one year in jail and a $2,500 fine. A Louisiana law allows parents to be fined up to $1,000 and imprisoned for up to six months if found guilty of "improper supervision of a minor" (for example, the child is associating with drug dealers, members of a street gang, or convicted felons).

http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/462/Juvenile-Crime-HOLDING-PARENTS-RESPONSIBLE.html

So if parents turn a blind eye to their childrens activities or their children tell them to screw off the parents can end up in jail.  Some of these kids just dont listen and have been given a chance before being sent to a program.  Cant blame the parents, the system is forcing these decisions also.