well, this caught me off guard. you all can research so much out of date material and never have anyhting new. i notice you still bring up the 1999 article about swiftriver and the book which is outdated...it is not even mentioned at swiftriver's site anymore. but it seems you cannot read the up to date stuff. none of the people listed at breakthrough are listed on the current swiftriver list of staff and the link to the book is anold review that has n ot been updated since the book was first released in 2004 from whati culd find on it. stop being so judgemental.......well i won't worry ......my point will be proven from either your name calling responses to this or by its deletion.