O.K. my computer won’t let me post on the other thread, for some reason, so I'll finish it up here
I’m an ex- regular who comes no longer. The repelling force isn’t Mike, but a few fire whirls, including the loss of safety in posting here. Currently, one fears moderators will misuse their clout to compromise a vexing poster’s anonymity, or give information about their identities to programs or authorities.
A poster accused Zenagent of sexual abuse, being an alcoholic, and failure, upsetting him. He demanded the poster’s IP. It wasn’t revealed, but it’s repulsive that an accused abuser, who demanded the ID of their complainant- as if they had the right to that info- is now a moderator. Moderating powers should not be given to people who do not recognize ethical boundaries concerning privacy. Only people who don’t use their powers to obtain IPs as a method of handling detractors triggering personal insecurities, should be moderators. Zen’s powers should be strictly limited, or removed.
Mike having an ip collection is creepy, as is che “abusing his powers to check on ips.” This issue should be addressed. Moderators should have no more right to check ips for personal aims than regular posters
There needs to be mechanical limitations on moderator powers and these should publicly posted.
Secondly, Fornits shouldn’t be hijacked by a small group from a traditionally abusive rtc. The YLF forum shouldn’t be on top. The rtcs and cults discussed inside already have their forums. I feel like some program parents don’t “need” this forum emotionally and have turned it into a place where insults about being gay and poor, and orders to identify yourself have replaced communication. They aren’t interested n communication but a bully-pulpit platform which has resulted in a corresponding decline of other voices
Finally, fornits should be fully anon again. Stop forcing “name” declarations when logging in as guest. “Tortured kids,” “cafety,” and mike’s forum are dead because of the “signing in” policy. The emotions provoked by discussion of therapeutic cult abuse are too painful to expect people to log in. This I.D.ing policy drives survivors away.
Who decides how the forum is run, anyway?
Whoever that is should consider these issues. I surmised that people would stop posting when invasive I.D.ing and unreliable moderators became worries, and this prediction has proved accurate.
With that said, there is no pleasing everyone. Individually, I’d like to feel relatively comfortable that my right to privacy is respected, even if I piss off individual moderators, and that all survivors aims are considered.
And before we EVEN go there, I’m not a troll, or involved in any of the personal disputes referenced.
The above’s my post, my only on this thread, and I was a regular. Remember the kid describing their insomnia & nightmares, and Aaron responding that he has a hooker under the bed, and that’s why he can’t sleep?--that was me (the insomniac, not hooker.)
I just returned to this thread and am shocked by how quickly –and swinishly- it moved. No one should presume another's identities and use that as an excuse to hurt a survivor.
Firstly, I don’t know what lists Psy has. I go by the info I read here.
In defense of Psy, it seems to me he is very transparent and makes an effort to explain himself and his actions without much prompting from the peanut gallery which I think most people respect him for.
I agree. The banning and threatening was over the line- but people make mistakes. This issue should be remedied (the banned guy- reinstated) and moved beyond
Secondly, Zen demanded a posters’ IP in the web subfoum. An accused abuser, or anyone, who demands a poster’s IP just because they are personally embarrassed shouldn’t have powers Am I to understand he gave out CCM girl’s personal info also? That’s VERY, VERY slimy, and, from what I see… part of a dishonorable pattern of behavior. What if CCM girl wants to take her abusers to court? What personal info would he make available to program forces because of personal embarrassment or animosity? How would he misuse his power with someone else?. His authority should be removed or limited.
Thirdly, you have to give a name when you log in as a guest, even if you just write guest. Therefore, it isn’t really anon, and an impediment to posting.
Fourthly, the yfl forum shouldn’t be on top
Most importantly, it’s a revelation to me that moderating powers are so circumscribed. Knowing they are is comforting.
There should be a sticky explaining what moderators and administrators have the power to do, and not do.
So, there you have it. Ta-Da. Please review some of these suggestions, as some might be useful.
