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TheWho:
--- Quote from: "make it simple" ---who - why do you think the industry provides no statistics and no studies by outside professionals? Any ideas?
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Of course. There is simply no value in it. When there comes a time when the schools are having a hard time filling their beds because the competition is tough then I think we will see the statisitcs come out as each of them competes for customers... as it stands today the schools are doing well.
I it expensive to conduct long term studies and if there is no gaurentee of a return on their investment then no one is going to vote for it. You need to understand that every dollar allocated needs to come back with interest (profit).
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Anonymous:
it is not expensive to simply publish statistics on how many adolescents that start the program graduate from it. The rest of your comment demonstrates the problem. The facilities you tout povide treatment to adolescnets for conditions and illnesses that exist and have definitions and accepted treatment . There are no other providers of therapeutic services for people with illnesses that fail to publish results or permit outside evaluations. The profit motive provides incentives to create new products but also to cut corners and cheat. That is why we have governmental agencies like the fda and ftc and professional organizations like the ama that establish standards and evaluate claims for those that provide treatment for illnesses etc. and we have the tough love industry in which anything that attracts customers is considered acceptable
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "make it simple" ---it is not expensive to simply publish statistics on how many adolescents that start the program graduate from it.
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No, it isn’t. It just may be information that they choose not to release.
--- Quote ---The rest of your comment demonstrates the problem. The facilities you tout povide treatment to adolescnets for conditions and illnesses that exist and have definitions and accepted treatment .
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In most cases the standard treatment has not worked, the TBS is a last resort.
--- Quote ---There are no other providers of therapeutic services for people with illnesses that fail to publish results or permit outside evaluations.
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Some schools allow outside evaluations.
--- Quote ---The profit motive provides incentives to create new products but also to cut corners and cheat. That is why we have governmental agencies like the fda and ftc and professional organizations like the ama that establish standards and evaluate claims for those that provide treatment for illnesses etc.
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The government doesn’t have one for TBS’s. If the FDA and FTC,AMA decided is was not required to publish any of the results then no one would do it unless they could see a return.
--- Quote --- and we have the tough love industry in which anything that attracts customers is considered acceptable
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Sounds like you are suggesting there be a federal agency to cover TBS’s or RTC’s. I think this would solve your issue. The schools would be required to publish their results, but until then I just don’t see it happening on a wide scale.
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Anonymous:
what schools allow outside evaluations? by what evaluators? Your statement has no value unless it is specific and verifiable.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "make it simple" ---what schools allow outside evaluations? by what evaluators? Your statement has no value unless it is specific and verifiable.
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Academy at Swift River allowed a study to be done by a phd candidate a few years back and then there was Dave Marcus who spent 16 months living at ASR following a peer group through the process and he wrote a book on his experiences there. He won the pulitzer prize for another book he wrote.
Here is a link:
What it takes to pull me through
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