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Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "make it simple" ---what schools allow outside evaluations? by what evaluators? Your statement has no value unless it is specific and verifiable.
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Academy at Swift River allowed a study to be done by a phd candidate a few years back and then there was Dave Marcus who spent 16 months living at ASR following a peer group through the process and he wrote a book on his experiences there. He won the pulitzer prize for another book he wrote.
Here is a link:
What it takes to pull me through
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marcus's summary of asr was not favorable. the so-called study mentioned was not independent. the woman had direct ties to aspen/ the industry. we need real independent evaluation of their methods, such as taking a kid to the local jail and making him strip and smearing vasoline on their asshole. i'd love to see the evaluation and summary on that method of treatment. Ha,Ha,Ha....
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "EHUCE" ---marcus's summary of asr was not favorable. the so-called study mentioned was not independent. the woman had direct ties to aspen/ the industry. we need real independent evaluation of their methods, such as taking a kid to the local jail and making him strip and smearing vasoline on their asshole. i'd love to see the evaluation and summary on that method of treatment. Ha,Ha,Ha....
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The woman was a phd candidate from Colgate University and performed an independent study of one of the Therapeutic Boarding schools.
Here is the link for anyone interested in the facts:
http://groups.colgate.edu/cjs/student_papers/2002/VShapiro.pdf
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Nihilanthic:
That study has been debunked. Repeatedly. By me, at least one of those times. She said she thought it had POTENTIAL to be helpful, but couldn't say it did anything now, and basically admitted to it using abusive methods without explicitly admitting it was abusive.
But, at any rate, she didn't even earn her PhD when she wrote that damn thing. It was an inconclusive student study with a rosy outlook of its "potential".
Also, a book written by someone who survived it (for 16 fucking months, JESUS Christ) who then won some kind of prize for another book he had written has nothing to do with whether or not ASR was any good. Whoopie do he got an award for ANOTHER book besides the one about ASR.
But I digress. The fact that you're bringing up a study that's been completely shredded to pieces again makes me ownder if you're someone else or just a fucking idiot.
Ah, the ignore button...
TheWho:
Wow, who, you hit a nerve with that post.
TheWho:
Everyone is always crying for studies to be done.. then when they are completed and released all we hear is “Oh, well just because he won the Pulitzer prize doesn’t make him credible”… “Sure it was an independent study but she must be on the payroll because the outcome is positive”.. Ha,Ha,Ha, what they really mean to say is that there are no studies which are "negative" towards the industry.
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