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Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« on: January 18, 2008, 01:50:18 PM »
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Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia


· Boy, 16, has to make own fire, dig toilet, pump water
· Critics attack nine-month bleak exile from family

Kate Connolly in Berlin
Friday January 18, 2008
The Guardian

German authorities exasperated at the antisocial behaviour of a 16-year-old boy have sent him to a remote Siberian village for an "intensive educational experience", it emerged yesterday. The unusual measure by youth welfare officers in the central state of Hesse raised fresh questions about how to deal with delinquents who have been blamed for a series of ugly crimes.

The boy, who has not been identified, was dispatched east after behaving violently in school and at home and attacking his mother. He is being forced to fend for himself in boot camp-style conditions in the forlorn village of Sedelnikovo, several hours drive from the city of Omsk, in the western Siberian interior.

He has had to cope by collecting and chopping firewood to make his own fires, digging his own toilet and pumping water supplies from a well. He will stay there for nine months, separated from family and friends, the internet and television, under a programme designed specifically for him.

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Under the supervision of a Russian-speaking German assistant, the boy is also attending school. Once he returns to Germany, he will be monitored for a further two years.

"We deliberately sought a region that was particularly lacking in allure," said Stefan Becker, the head of the youth and social department in Giessen, calling it "the ultima ratio" in the attempt to re-educate the boy, for whom all other measures had failed. "[The youth] spends most of his time trying to cope with his day to day existence, living in conditions like we had 30 or 40 years ago," he added. "If he doesn't chop the wood, his room is cold. If he doesn't fetch water, he can't wash."

The Hesse authorities have defended the move as an "educational adventure" and say an inspector who visited the boy believed the "treatment" was working. Hundreds of other youths have been sent on similar programmes to countries as diverse as Greece and Kyrgyzstan.

The details have emerged in the midst of one of the most heated state election campaigns that Germany has known for years, in which youth crime has featured prominently. The Christian Democratic state president of Hesse, Roland Koch, has called for boot camps and "warning-shot" arrests to be applied to young criminals, and his election speeches have particularly focused on clamping down on immigrants, said to be responsible for half of all crimes committed by the under-21s.

The chancellor, Angela Merkel, has backed Koch's campaign, saying that the discussion was long overdue. Koch's stance on crime and immigration has won national resonance and the Hesse vote on January 27 - as well as one in the state of Lower Saxony on the same day - is an early test for Merkel ahead of next year's federal election.

But the decision to send the teenager to Siberia is a step too far for some, particularly as equally bleak, though not as cold, regions are to be found in Germany. One commentator called it "more akin to a reality TV show than a social welfare programme".

Some have described it as a cost-cutting measure, which, at €150 a day (£111), is about a third of the price of a similar scheme in Germany.
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Re: Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 04:18:56 PM »
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Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
This is satire, right?
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Re: Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 05:48:12 PM »
When we were visiting south central Asia, one of our translators was from Omsk, which is just north of the Kazakhstan boarder.   In the winter the high temperatures do not even reach zero for days in a row and can get as low as -40F (brutal).  There is no way the kids could dig a hole for a toilet during this period of time, though.  The nine months are probably like March thru November (some months are still cold).  It appears the children live with a host family of some sort because these would be considered normal living conditions in that area.



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Re: Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 06:42:17 AM »
The story is for real. I have been discussing it with a German. Apparently the boy have somehow volunteered and he had some knowledge about the region in advance.

The German think that they have found the golden egg, because it only cost about 1/3 of the cost in German.

What you dont know about Europe is that we in Denmark and properly also in Germany have a lot of problems with "tourists" from Russia and eastern Europe, who comes here without money and finance their hollidays with stealing and robbing from the citizens.

I fear that youths, who return from there will have establish connections so they can setup a little export/import business of their own. Of course work is better than hanging around doing nothing, but some work should be avoided.

Here is a link to a german article.

If you look closely at the comments, you can see me writing poorly in German.
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Re: Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 09:20:15 AM »
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The story is for real. I have been discussing it with a German. Apparently the boy have somehow volunteered and he had some knowledge about the region in advance.

The German think that they have found the golden egg, because it only cost about 1/3 of the cost in German.

What you dont know about Europe is that we in Denmark and properly also in Germany have a lot of problems with "tourists" from Russia and eastern Europe, who comes here without money and finance their hollidays with stealing and robbing from the citizens.

LOL... I do know this...  very well.  I grew up in Romania, where a good portion of them come from anyway.  As a result, though, I can spot them a mile away.  Never, ever, been pickpocketed... and the "imports" are very, very good, btw.

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Re: Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008, 10:41:28 AM »
I like sauerkraut. Good morning.

Who grew up in Romania?

Nevermind, i respect your cloak of mystery.
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Re: Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008, 03:40:49 PM »
You know who else liked to send Germans to punishment camps?
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Re: Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 03:58:07 PM »
Mel Sembler.
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