Christopher Columbus of Cults

[ajax13]

Still waiting for one of you AARColytes to answer the questions:
Are the Peer Counselors and Clinical staff at AARC performing Resricted Activities as defined in the Health Profesionals Act.  If so, are they legally entitled to do so?
Come on AARColytes, here's your chance to say something, and you don't even have to send me a cheque!

[Anonymous]

Still waiting for one of you AARColytes to answer the questions:
Are the Peer Counselors and Clinical staff at AARC performing Resricted Activities as defined in the Health Profesionals Act.  If so, are they legally entitled to do so?
Come on AARColytes, here's your chance to say something, and you don't even have to send me a cheque!

how typical  . . . AJAX can't win the argument about whether one should trust the testimonial of a physician vs a juvenile delinquent so he either attacks and insists you are a deranged AARC parent or changes the subject  or both.  I guess when you can't accomplish much more in life besides adopting a screwed up woman and working on oil rigs for a living . .  well we really can't expect much.

[Anonymous]

For your reading pleasure - read different accounts of AJAX's main source of information on the AARC process.  Look up articles entitled:
Back from the Edge by Paula Hudson-Lunn  Parent Quaterly
Addiction: A Mother battles her children's demons  Calgary Herald November 23, 2002
Miracle: A Chrismas Story  The Hillhurst Sunnyside Vol 15 No.10

The dots were connected years ago between you and the woman that those articles are written about. The articles all tell how Ajax's spouse/GF was before she even heard of AARC. AJAX finds this social mis-fit to be a reliable source of information. I'll go with the physician who obtained her MD and CCFP before SHE even heard of AARC whether or not her 11 yr. old. smoked pot  . . . are you sure you aren't a little like your grandma there, buddy.  you seem to rely on the 'woowoo FU - type'  for info  LOL

[ajax13]

By all means, take the opinion of a medical professional who turned her kid over to a gym teacher-turned-cult-leader who claims to have developed a surefire rehabillitation for drug abuse.  
I'm still waiting for a physician's analysis of AARC's methods, from the forced prayer and confession, to the music rituals, to the employment of Peer Counselors for the bulk of the "treatment".
But a physician who is not an AARC parent, nor an AARC Board Member, nor a consultant to private addiction treatment facilities.
The lady who wrote those articles was allowed to run a host home by AARC for two years in spite of the fact that she has a history of drug and alcohol abuse and neglect of her children going back twenty-five years.  She was however, able to scrape up money for AARC, so she was warmly embraced while her daugher was sexually assaulted and beaten in the Gilbertsen and Clement homes.  Ms. Hudson-Lunn currently resides with the fourth in a series of indigent men to whom she gave the financial resources that ought to have gone to her children.  This particular fellow met Ms. Hudson-Lunn while both were being treated for cocaine addiction about six or seven years ago.
Ms. Hudson Lunn, cocaine addict and oft-used host home provider for AARC.
But back to the question for all you AARColytes, is the AARC staff performing Restricted Activities which they are not permitted to perform due to their total lack of professional qualifications?
Anybody?

[Anonymous]

The lady who wrote those articles was allowed to run a host home by AARC for two years in spite of the fact that she has a history of drug and alcohol abuse and neglect of her children going back twenty-five years.  She was however, able to scrape up money for AARC, so she was warmly embraced while her daugher was sexually assaulted and beaten in the Gilbertsen and Clement homes.  Ms. Hudson-Lunn currently resides with the fourth in a series of indigent men to whom she gave the financial resources that ought to have gone to her children.  This particular fellow met Ms. Hudson-Lunn while both were being treated for cocaine addiction about six or seven years ago.
Ms. Hudson Lunn, cocaine addict and oft-used host home provider for AARC.

And she is the mother of your 'informant' . . . and we should take the word of you and your juvy on this as well  LOL regardless, you might want to READ those articles. your juvy sounds exactly like her mommy then. AND I'll take the physician's word on AARC over all of your camp!

But back to the question for all you AARColytes, is the AARC staff performing Restricted Activities which they are not permitted to perform due to their total lack of professional qualifications?
Anybody?

'Restricteed activities' must be the content of another thread,honey.  you've got too many 'balls' in the air   LOL  is your juvy still contributing to that situation for you? because we know she leads you around by them.

[ajax13]

Honey, this is a simple question.  Having put your kid in AARC, I am counting on you to know the answer.  Are the staff at AARC performing Restricted Activities, and if so are they entitled to do so?

[Anonymous]

Honey, this is a simple question.  Having put your kid in AARC, I am counting on you to know the answer.  Are the staff at AARC performing Restricted Activities, and if so are they entitled to do so?

Honey, I realize you struggle with english . . well, and a lot of other things . . but like I keep telling you  - I don't meet the criteria of "AARC parent" . you can keep wishin but your little dream-life just is not true .  :heartbreak:

[ajax13]

Honey, I simply don't believe you. Then again, it's irrelevant.   But, by all means take a stab at answering the question.  Is the Clinical and Peer Staff at AARC performing Restricted Activities, and are the legally entitled to do so?

[Anonymous]

Honey, I simply don't believe you.  

ohhh, how hurtful . . .  and how consistent with how your world works . . only greg elliott knows the truth about anything because he has a grandma that was a psychic!!

so to continue on with what was in THIS thread - Dr. McMahon's testament to the brlliance of AARC . . . . . .
 :jamin:

[ajax13]

The original topic of this thread was the lie that the Wizard had created the AARC model.  Untrue, he stole it from Miller Newton.  That's why the phases, the total isolation of Newcomers, the host homes, the Peer Counselors, the raps, the Synanon style group hate sessions, the confessions and praying, are all identical to Kids.  But then AARC was originally called Kids.  
But as I stated earlier, feel free to embrace Dr. McMahon's love for AARC.  I on the other hand am still waiting for an analysis from a doctor who is not an AARC parent, not an AARC board member, and not a consultant to private addiction treatment centres.
I can't help but lump Dr. McMahon in with the other physician parents who put their offspring in Kids, since they chose to forsake legitimate medical treatment and place their children in a cult run by a complete amateur posing as a mental health expert.  You know, that phys ed teacher who worked at Kids and then claimed to have invented a method to rehabillitate drug addicts.  
Too bad you did the same thing with your kid.

[Anonymous]

[The original topic of this thread was the lie that the Wizard had created the AARC model.  Untrue, he stole it from Miller Newton.  That's why the phases, the total isolation of Newcomers, the host homes, the Peer Counselors, the raps, the Synanon style group hate sessions, the confessions and praying, are all identical to Kids.  But then AARC was originally called Kids.  

uh huh

I can't help but lump Dr. McMahon in with the other physician parents who put their offspring in Kids, since they chose to forsake legitimate medical treatment and place their children in a cult run by a complete amateur posing as a mental health expert.

are you referring to the same mental health expert that actually provides the help that other agencies (including those within the CHR umbrella) could not provide to these parents? oh sorry, that would be a yes, right.  tell me, does your AARC grad think she would have just stopped using on her own at the time she entered AARC ? NOT likely . . she would still be visiting court rooms and making longterm friends with probation officers . . .   you just don't get it, do you funnyboy

Too bad you did the same thing with your kid.

you keep a talkin but you don't keep al listenin :lala:

[Anonymous]

I can't help but lump Dr. McMahon in with the other physician parents who put their offspring in Kids, since they chose to forsake legitimate medical treatment and place their children in a cult run by a complete amateur posing as a mental health expert.

are you referring to the same mental health expert that actually provides the help that other agencies (including those within the CHR umbrella) could not provide to these parents? oh sorry, that would be a yes, right.  tell me, does your AARC grad think she would have just stopped using on her own at the time she entered AARC ? NOT likely . . she would still be visiting court rooms and making longterm friends with probation officers . . .   you just don't get it, do you funnyboy

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i love this thread  . . . how come AARC works, even for kids that nothing else will work for???

[Carmel]

The original topic of this thread was the lie that the Wizard had created the AARC model.  Untrue, he stole it from Miller Newton.  That's why the phases, the total isolation of Newcomers, the host homes, the Peer Counselors, the raps, the Synanon style group hate sessions, the confessions and praying, are all identical to Kids.  But then AARC was originally called Kids.  
But as I stated earlier, feel free to embrace Dr. McMahon's love for AARC.  I on the other hand am still waiting for an analysis from a doctor who is not an AARC parent, not an AARC board member, and not a consultant to private addiction treatment centres.
I can't help but lump Dr. McMahon in with the other physician parents who put their offspring in Kids, since they chose to forsake legitimate medical treatment and place their children in a cult run by a complete amateur posing as a mental health expert.  You know, that phys ed teacher who worked at Kids and then claimed to have invented a method to rehabillitate drug addicts.  
Too bad you did the same thing with your kid.

Its always the same thing....AJAX is right, the fundamental truth about the methodology is faulty, I dont care who created it, or who advocates it....its a faulty system, period.  Whoever this person is who keeps beating the "medical professional vs juvenile delinquent" thing is just beating a completely useless point.  One instance of adverse perspectives is just moot...moot moot MOOT.

DO your research, the FACTS about this method and these programs are there, validated by numerous courts of law...theres your damn professionals.

Parents and advocates of these programs were 100% a part of the brainwashing cultic process of the facilities, they ARE NOT qualified to make judgements on the effectiveness of the programs...not only that but even when they try they cant produce one that comes even close to matching the vast, overwhelming stack of adverse. documented facts about this method.

The fact that AARC is a direct offshoot of a cultic fraudulent treatment modality is irrefutable, period.  All of this we took the bad and made it good is very simply impossible......just impossible.  Anyone whos been through it would know that, Honey.

[Carmel]

"Synanon Church, Straight's progenitor, had its own cult doctors (and attorneys). It was these doctors who performed the mass sterilizations on all the male Synanites. But if a Synanite kid had to go to a specialist off-site, the child was taken by a parent other than his own. Straight is a cult which places emphasis on recruiting parents with special backgrounds especially medical doctors, dentist, nurses, and attorneys. The child must be controlled at all times as to what he could tell an outsider. If a child gets sick then he is sent to a program doctor (preferably one has had one of his own kids in the cult so that he has been conditioned never to believe anything a "druggie" says bad about Straight.) Or the child is sent to a doctor accompanied by an adult program official or a parent other than his own, and escorted by a same-sex old comer who actually follows the sick child into the doctor's examining room telling the doctor the child is a "druggie", subject to violence, and she is there to protect the doctor should the client "act out". This logic closed down Straight-Southern California. When a big burly doctor was told this about a quite, little girl he told the old comer to take a hike. This big man just sort of felt he could protect himself from being beaten up by a little girl! Alone with an outsider for the first time the little girl told a chilling story of horror including having a sock crammed down her throat to silence her screams."

Leigh Bright's testimony against Straight/Newton.....she took them to trial and won.  This is regarded as truth by the courts and the law.  I was present when Straight California was closed down and the clients transfered to our program in Dallas.  I sustained potentially damaging head injuries not long after that and was not allowed medical treatment.  

I dont care how much of a druggie or delinquent a kid may be THIS is wrong....and THIS is the thinking that you are defending.  There was little else in group that occured other than abuse, degredation and humiliation.....if AARC changed all these things in their program, its highly unlikely they anything left whatsoever in order to "treat" the kids with.

[ajax13]

There must be some mistake.  AARC is a unique program completely unlike Straight and Kids.  What you're describing sounds just like inmates at AARC being sent to Dr. Goldenarmstanhopeless, a once and now again AARC board member.  Accompanying the AARC inmates on such visits to the good AARC doctor were folks such as the Wiz's own step-daughter.
AARC inmates could be sent to AARC by the doctor's wife, Judge Cook Stanhopeless, and then enjoy the patient-doctor relationship with an AARC board member.
Cheers to Dr. Stanhope's medical ethics!  Huzzah!