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Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Then don't respect their wishes. But leave the phoney baloney compassion behind.
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It is not phoney baloney compassion. Have YOU ever lost someone via these means to the end of a life? This is not a rhetorical question, I'm asking you flat out.
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How do you know that George's family lost George "via these means," i.e., Benchmark?
You are merely making a counterfactual statement: George would not have committed suicide if he had not gone to Benchmark.
Napoleon would have won the war if he had not invaded Russia during the winter. Maybe yes, maybe no.
You had better be armed with better proofs than that if you want to convince anyone outside of Fornits.
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Torturer, we have proof. Psy survived benchmark, and can post about the treatment of it's prisoners. That's proof, you horrible human being.
You can't set up a "thought reform" prison, based on degrading and destroying the mental processes and emotional well being of a kid, and then claim no responsibility when the kid commits suicide as a result of their "restructured brain."
YOU don't want to admit the truth, as it implicates you in murder. But, outside of YOUR cult, it's not to hard "convincing people" of what is only too obvious.
ps. a mother was put in jail for forcing her 18 year old daughter to work as a stripper. Your kind will be too, someday.
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You need to work on your people skills.
Just out of curiosity, did you know George and his family?
TheWho:
--- Quote ---True enough. There is no more certain bar against enlightenment than contempt prior to investigation. But the suicide rate in TC/LGAT style programs is something around 5 - 20 times the national average. This is worthy of investigation.
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Not too convinced of your statistics but I agree that it is worth investigating. What I was against was placing a guys name on the internet or bridge without having the facts. If we don’t find out the school caused the suicide then we should not make the connection our selves.
A simple “Georgeâ€
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---But that doesn't come close to outweighing the need to break the secrecy so that more kids don't have to suffer and die in secret as so many program kids have done already.
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Yes, I think it's important to prevent this kind of murder from reoccuring, but, in my opinion, the primary interest in this memorial would be to honour the victim. Sadly, we loose sight of the importance of the individual, and we feel we have to give legitimacy to honouring them, by tying it to help others, but, George, in himself, should be the primary motivation of a memorial.
Like, the memorial for webdivas' brother, by describing his martydrom, the kid is granted decency, respect, and acknowledgement of his suffering that he never was in life.
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Who are you to decide that the details of this death should remain secret? As a matter of course, all deaths are subject to investigation. I am of the opinion that deaths among program captives and vets are under-investigated.
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Exactly, it's so presumptuous. Like they have "claim" on this boys existance into eternity. THEY are the ones who use the "mask" of compassion- concern for the feelings' of the boys' family- to further their personal agenda.
Why does anyone have the right to think they are allowed to keep a death "secret", for any reason???????
It shows their lack of respect for human life; their beleif that humans are inventory to be channelled as they wish
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---But that doesn't come close to outweighing the need to break the secrecy so that more kids don't have to suffer and die in secret as so many program kids have done already.
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Yes, I think it's important to prevent this kind of murder from reoccuring, but, in my opinion, the primary interest in this memorial would be to honour the victim. Sadly, we loose sight of the importance of the individual, and we feel we have to give legitimacy to honouring them, by tying it to help others, but, George, in himself, should be the primary motivation of a memorial.
Like, the memorial for webdivas' brother, by describing his martydrom, the kid is granted decency, respect, and acknowledgement of his suffering that he never was in life.
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Who are you to decide that the details of this death should remain secret? As a matter of course, all deaths are subject to investigation. I am of the opinion that deaths among program captives and vets are under-investigated.
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Exactly, it's so presumptuous. Like they have "claim" on this boys existance into eternity. THEY are the ones who use the "mask" of compassion- concern for the feelings' of the boys' family- to further their personal agenda.
Why does anyone have the right to think they are allowed to keep a death "secret", for any reason???????
It shows their lack of respect for human life; their beleif that humans are inventory to be channelled as they wish
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You are the one who never knew George was alive until he was dead. You are the one who has no drop of human feeling for him one way or the other. You are the one who wants to turn him into inventory.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---What I was against was placing a guys name on the internet or bridge without having the facts.
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I think one of the facts is that George died by the bridge and no one is disputing that fact. What exactly is the problem with including his last name in the memorial?
You still haven't answered me, Who: Have YOU ever lost someone via these means to the end of a life? This is not a rhetorical question, I'm asking you flat out.
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