Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Benchmark Young Adult School / Benchmark Transitions
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TheWho:
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--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---What I was against was placing a guys name on the internet or bridge without having the facts.
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I think one of the facts is that George died by the bridge and no one is disputing that fact. What exactly is the problem with including his last name in the memorial?
You still haven't answered me, Who: Have YOU ever lost someone via these means to the end of a life? This is not a rhetorical question, I'm asking you flat out.
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Yes, I agree lets stick with what we know.. "George died by the bridge" I had a member of my extended family die this way, but not someone close to me. It seems this manner of death brings solitude. This may be viewed as secrecy to those who have never been through or have known others who have had a family member suffer this way.
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psy:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Then don't respect their wishes. But leave the phoney baloney compassion behind.
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It is not phoney baloney compassion. Have YOU ever lost someone via these means to the end of a life? This is not a rhetorical question, I'm asking you flat out.
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How do you know that George's family lost George "via these means," i.e., Benchmark?
You are merely making a counterfactual statement: George would not have committed suicide if he had not gone to Benchmark.
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Well. Here are the facts: George was already suicidal. He was clinically diagnosed as bipolar. How do I know this, as well as his name? Jayne Longnecker told me when I interviewed her back in Nov of 06 (so much for patient confidentiality. or student confidentiality, or whatever...)
Yup. He was clearly a danger to himself and he wanted to get help. He didn't. Instead, he was yelled at, berated, and browbeaten until he could no longer stand it and killed himself (according to multiple eye witness accounts). He should have gotten legitimate therapy, he should have felt accepted and loved. He didn't. Benchmark advertised to be able to help him and it was criminally irresponsible (IMO) for them to accept him in the condition he was already in. They told parents I have interviewed that they had qualified counselors on staff and 24 hour supervision (yeah, I got video tape) and all that jazz. They told my parents the same. They lied.
If they had told the truth it would have been something like "we hire a bunch of junkies straight outta rehab cuz it's cheap labor and costs a hell of a lot less than paying staff that actually graduated high school, much less college. Our staff can't probably even spell your kid's disorder but will do their best to 'treat' it as an addiction." If you're a parent, I dare you to go do some background checks on some of the staff, then ask yourself where the hell your 70k/year is going.
dishdutyfugitive:
is benchmark 70K a year?
TheWho:
So we can conclude that Benchmark did not cause the boy to become suicidal, but they clearly didnt do much (or enough) to help him. As far as staff is concerned.. are you sure that none of them has completed high school and they are all addicted to heroin?
This is where some parents question the credibility here. Personally I find it hard to believe, how did you verify that they did not complete high school or the heroin?
It is statements like these that lead the reader to believe you want to place a memorial for George, not out of respect for George, but out of disrespect for Benchmark. Georges death seems to be an opportunity to further ones cause.
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psy:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---You are the one who never knew George was alive until he was dead. You are the one who has no drop of human feeling for him one way or the other. You are the one who wants to turn him into inventory.
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So you think I'm using him as a political pawn? A symbol? A rallying cry?
No. I'm just trying to prevent other kids I don't know from becoming dead ones I do. George may have been the only death at Benchmark itself (that I know of), but he was not exactly the only one from Benchmark to ever pull it off. Seth H. was another one who killed himself shortly after program. Program used his testimony on their advertising despite this. He was a "success story". (Who is getting used as a pawn now. Benchmark makes money off these kids. I don't. I was one of them.) His brother was in program with me, I did know him and I knew he did love his brother (and talked about him all the time)
No, I didn't know George. I wish I had. I wish I could have been a friend to him. I wish I had the opportunity to talk his parents about what a dangerous situation he was in, maybe get him some legitimate therapy. Suicide attempts were not taken seriously at Benchmark, usually dismissed as "manipulations". While i'm sure this might be the case in some situations, it is negligent to dismiss any attempt or talk about suicide as such. Negligence has consequences. There are reasons why unlicensed persons are not permitted to practice psychology.
Benchmark advertises to treat psychiatric conditions. They misrepresent their staff qualifications. They behave recklessly with those who are already vulnerable. They believe they can handle conditions because they are told that the catch-all Benchmark treatment method works wonders. It's dogma, not psychiatric science. The responsibility for his death lies with Benchmark, not me, and not George. In my opinion, his death was more murder than suicide.
Is it possible that Benchmark did help him and it just wasn't enough? It would go against everything i've seen, heard about, and personally experienced. Depression, or anything for that matter, was treated with the exact same methodology as the addicts, schizophrenics, bulimics, and ADHD kids. They tell these kids they are powerless over their problems (and need program). With a suicidally depressed person starts believing that, it's tantamount to a death sentence.
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