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Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Maybe he is remembered very well. As far as we know all the people that loved him remember him every day and cherish the time they had with him.
Why should you be the one to decide if his name should be posted all over the internet?
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Or maybe not. Maybe his family remember him the way Chris Landry's family did by setting up a fund to help more kids to an early grave. People can be quite delusional that way; especially when dealing with deep, dark and complicated matters like the death of a child and their own culpability in it.
Shit, I actually have some sympathy for these people. I just lost my best beloved dog. She got clipped on the road, probably running deer late one night. On the one hand, I was the one to let her out and I didn't miss her and go looking for her when I shut down the house. If I had just noticed and called her she would have come. She was that good a dog. It was my fault and I'll never forget it and I don't take offence at all when neighbours tell the story as a cautionary tale to other dog owners.
But she rarely wandered off in her 5 years, never in the most recent ones. So why should I think to check and see if she had that night? These are mollifying truths, but still I know I didn't miss her, wasn't paying attention and that's why she's gone from me.
And she was just a dog. A good dog, the best, but not my child really. I can hardly imagine what it must be like for these parents. I do have a great deal of compassion and concern for them. But that doesn't come close to outweighing the need to break the secrecy so that more kids don't have to suffer and die in secret as so many program kids have done already.
Who are you to decide that the details of this death should remain secret? As a matter of course, all deaths are subject to investigation. I am of the opinion that deaths among program captives and vets are under-investigated.
--- Quote ---Should we post your name on here, were you a victim? How about Anne Bonney, she was a victim.. should we take a vote and post her name? (Sorry Anne, didnt mean to single you out) or is this something that just you should decide?
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Have at it. My name is all over the net and in print about this. I decided a long time ago that it was well worth the personal sacrifice to do my level best to purge this dangerous cult from the country my grandchildren will grow up in. BTW, did you ever grow enough sack to confirm your identity? Probably not.
Ginger McNulty
TheWho:
--- Quote ---Who are you to decide that the details of this death should remain secret? As a matter of course, all deaths are subject to investigation. I am of the opinion that deaths among program captives and vets are under-investigated.
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First I think it is wrong to exploit people who don’t want to be and to have their names and pictures placed on the web. I didn’t think it was right for people to have plastered Niles picture everywhere. I don’t think it is right to take pictures of these young kids trying to get their careers going helping other children and to repost them here for ridicule and for their family and friends to have to endure. It is true that the pictures were already on the internet, but it isn’t right to misuse it….. purely just my opinion.
I don’t think the boys death should remain a secret at all. It is not up to me. I have known families who have had children who took their own life and the families feel great remorse and somewhat responsible, maybe. These deaths seem to always be treated differently…..no right up in the paper about how he enjoyed sports, or video games or how he helped others as you typically see if the class president dies in a car accident. Maybe it is a stigma, I cant relate because it never happened to me but I have witnessed the shades come down and the silence and distance that is implied and asked for when a death like this occurs.
Unless you know the boys family would be okay with it, I wouldn’t do it. Maybe they would be moved by your understanding and remembrance, maybe they blame the school or maybe they have reason to suspect it had nothing to do with Benchmark. But I wouldn’t take it upon yourself to use this boys death to further a personal cause behind a veil of compassion.
Unless the boy left a note none of us will ever know what caused him to take his own life.
--- Quote --- Have at it. My name is all over the net and in print about this. I decided a long time ago that it was well worth the personal sacrifice to do my level best to purge this dangerous cult from the country my grandchildren will grow up in. BTW, did you ever grow enough sack to confirm your identity? Probably not.
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That is your choice, Ginger. If you wanted to remain anonymous I think people should respect that.
“Did I ever grow enough sack to confirm my own identityâ€
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---"Did I ever grow enough sack to confirm my own identity?" I am not sure what you mean.
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I believe she was asking whether you had the balls you were born with, or something else along the lines of equating scrotal size with courage.
--- Quote from: ""Ginger"" ---Who are you to decide that the details of this death should remain secret? As a matter of course, all deaths are subject to investigation. I am of the opinion that deaths among program captives and vets are under-investigated.
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Deaths ARE under-investigated, and under-reported. Especially those involving suicide, or where there is potential suicidal involvement. These are dirty secrets that those who want to maintain the status quo are never happy about having aired in the disinfecting sunlight.
Anonymous:
Do you know that George's family sent him on a suicide mission? If so, they deserve your punishments. If not, let them grieve without making matters worse for them.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Do you know that George's family sent him on a suicide mission? If so, they deserve your punishments. If not, let them grieve without making matters worse for them.
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I hardly think shining the light on this problem has the primary intention of "punishment." People are just not putting 2 and 2 together. The more this is aired, the more likely they will be able to in the future. How about thinking of George's family as being tragically uninformed consumers, does that make it any clearer?
Sorry to be so crass...
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