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HG:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---exactly, if it's suicide, it's "shameful" for the family. That's because it implicates them, in some way.

FUCK THE FAMILIES.
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I hear ya.  But life is a messy thing.  Dont think any are arguing with ya on THIS one. Think Urs was trying for some general thoughts, when it comes to being sensitive about suicide.  Me, I say go fer it.

Anonymous:
I had a friend who died a few years after she graduated from one of these TBSs.  They said it was an accident, but I never really believed that.  Maybe it was sort of an accident, but her frame of mind was like she had failed at life, and how much did THAT contribute, huh?  She failed at life because she didn't live up to the programs expectations.  Well, she's gone now.  And her little girl is growing up without her mother.

Che Gookin:
Right then. I'm all for creating a fund for building a memorial to honor every single one of them.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""HG"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---exactly, if it's suicide, it's "shameful" for the family. That's because it implicates them, in some way.

FUCK THE FAMILIES.
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I hear ya.  But life is a messy thing.  Dont think any are arguing with ya on THIS one. Think Urs was trying for some general thoughts, when it comes to being sensitive about suicide.  Me, I say go fer it.
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yes, i hope it didn't come off like i was trying to insult him, or be argumentitive, Sorry. Suicide is not shameful for the kid, only the parents/ "program" that drove him to it. I hate the idea that, like, it's something like being a pedophile, and needs to be kept secret, for the sake of the victim.

psy:

--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---When you press the play butten, nothing happens. I'm suprised you haven't heard this from other people, so perhaps it's just me?
Also, psy, your raid was wonderful, and I hope you continue a to be a kind, compassionate, Cedu destroyer.

I also think you should post the name of the kid that commited suicide, as testemant to him. At this point, what his "family" thinks is less important than preventing him from becoming a nameless spirit, who dissapears back into dust ,without his murderers being implicated, and his and hismartrydom honored.
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This is totally wrong.  You should speak to the family first.  You are all getting as bad as Deborah.  Just focus on the industry (if that is who you have the beef with) and leave the kids alone.  Try to do your work outside of hurting other people and families.  We all have a choice of posting anonymous or logging in, we can even post our names if we like, but that is an individual choice and we should be able to maintain that control.  It is not right to post survivors names, parents names, kids who are trying to make a difference or positive impact on others or children who took their lives without their permission or their families permission.


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Um.  From the people i've talked to (if it isn't already self-evident) the kid wasn't exactly a fan of Benchmark.  If I had his full name, i'd post it, but for now "George" will have to do.  But what about the parents?  I'd love to talk to them.  If posting a name would somehow initiate that dialogue (in whatever capacity) it would probably be good, not bad (well, maybe for Benchmark).  If I were the parents, I would have filed a wrongful death suit, and that still might be possible.

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