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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #105 on: May 08, 2009, 12:26:17 AM »
You are talking about 2 different Anchor Homes. The 1 that Douglas was at was in Zapata TX. The 1 that Anchortraz was at was in Corpus Christi TX.  Anchortraz,  Bro. Roloff was killed in "82, so If you were there in '82-'85 what happen to you was not the way Bro. Rolloff would have wanted the homes to be ran. He would have NEVER put up with that.
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #106 on: May 08, 2009, 12:45:58 AM »
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Bro. Roloff was killed in "82, so If you were there in '82-'85 what happen to you was not the way Bro. Rolloff would have wanted the homes to be ran. He would have NEVER put up with that.

I really must interject here, that THAT is precisely the point.  When Lester Roloff died, those who took over lost sight of his ideals.  He was a hard man, yes.  He was strict, was tough, and by today's standards even abusive himself, but not to the level that those who came after his death were.  

Just because your experience, or my experience was better or worse than someone elses does not mean they are lying, it means they went through something we did not.  If someone else went through an experience worse than yours, count yourself extremely lucky, if they had an easier time, thank God for them, maybe they couldn't have handled it as well as you handled your experience.  

I know enough survivors of the Homes to know that some of us are a little cracked around the edges because of the experience, some are cracked clean through, and others seem to have come through with grace and poise DESPITE the horrors they were subjected to.  We are all made different, we all have different perspectives, however, we all deserve the respect to tell our sides, without condemnation from someone else whose experience differed.

I'm quite sure Brother Roloff would not have wanted Faye Cameron to duct tape a girls hands & feet & leave her in lock-up in that condition, but she did it, the state of Texas documented it and she isn't allowed to be inside any facility which provides care to children in the state.  Google it.
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #107 on: May 08, 2009, 09:48:15 AM »
well if ya think like that about 2 different anchor homes than what about the anchor in missouri or montana or where it is now? they are all the same anchortraz. zapata, corpus and so forth. every kid had a different experience while in the homes, yes!!! anchor was better than being at home for me, but the fact is this children are children!!!!!
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #108 on: May 08, 2009, 02:51:41 PM »
The present Anchor home is located in Missouri. It moved there from Montana when they were in the process of making tougher regulation. The regulation became a joke, but they didn't know at the time, so they moved into no-regulation land aka Missouri. Call the school fate-based and none care if kids are paddled or Osama himself teach how to wear fashion bomb belts.

Our datasheet for the present home looks like this.

The historical home was located in Texas but they left during the Christian Alamo. Here is our datasheet for that home (Nothing much).

From what you write your stories tell the important message of how dangerous it can be to create a group home or boarding school with the best intentions. How matter how great the place can  be and properly save children from abusive parents etc. it can be destroyed in seconds by just one staff. That's why future efforts to help kids must be done in the community. There are plenty of kids in needs - unfortunately, but we really need to focus on the factors that create problems rather than pulling kids out of the community whenever they end up in a situation caused by the community ifself. It is both cheaper and safer for all involved.
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2009, 12:36:11 PM »
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The present Anchor home is located in Missouri. It moved there from Montana when they were in the process of making tougher regulation. The regulation became a joke, but they didn't know at the time, so they moved into no-regulation land aka Missouri. Call the school fate-based and none care if kids are paddled or Osama himself teach how to wear fashion bomb belts.

Our datasheet for the present home looks like this.

The historical home was located in Texas but they left during the Christian Alamo. Here is our datasheet for that home (Nothing much).

From what you write your stories tell the important message of how dangerous it can be to create a group home or boarding school with the best intentions. How matter how great the place can  be and properly save children from abusive parents etc. it can be destroyed in seconds by just one staff. That's why future efforts to help kids must be done in the community. There are plenty of kids in needs - unfortunately, but we really need to focus on the factors that create problems rather than pulling kids out of the community whenever they end up in a situation caused by the community ifself. It is both cheaper and safer for all involved.

I have read all your responses. I have made  contact with a person who was involved with the roloff entrps for many years, and we covered alot of ground thru the 70's and 80's. I found that after Lester died, things drastically changed. HIS policies were no longer followed. It became chaos within the homes. I beg forgiveness of all that I have spoken so rudely to, for I was completely unaware and based all my feelings on my own experience. Though many of you have been unjustly treated, Please know that this was never Lester's intention. Had he known of your plight, he would have put on his fighting britches and started dishing out knuckle sandwiches.
If I were able, I would embrace each abused person and try to bring you comfort. In closing, I ask that you noy turn away from Gods' love because of the wickedness of those who treated you unjustly. I truely love you all for we are brothers and sisters in that we were all there.
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2010, 12:12:29 PM »
Quote from: "Oscar"
The present Anchor home is located in Missouri. It moved there from Montana when they were in the process of making tougher regulation. The regulation became a joke, but they didn't know at the time, so they moved into no-regulation land aka Missouri. Call the school fate-based and none care if kids are paddled or Osama himself teach how to wear fashion bomb belts.

Our datasheet for the present home looks like this.

The historical home was located in Texas but they left during the Christian Alamo. Here is our datasheet for that home (Nothing much).

From what you write your stories tell the important message of how dangerous it can be to create a group home or boarding school with the best intentions. How matter how great the place can  be and properly save children from abusive parents etc. it can be destroyed in seconds by just one staff. That's why future efforts to help kids must be done in the community. There are plenty of kids in needs - unfortunately, but we really need to focus on the factors that create problems rather than pulling kids out of the community whenever they end up in a situation caused by the community ifself. It is both cheaper and safer for all involved.

Oscar, you can not speak with any authority as to what did or didn't actually happen at Anchor because you were not there. I I was at the People's Baptist Church ministry and I don't even know all that went on in Anchor. I do resent your reference to Osama and inferring that Roloff's is somehow similar in any way to the terrorist that strap bombs on their self and kill innocent people. The fact that you live in a country that you live in makes it easy to understand your liberal socialist views about corporal punishment. There are innumerable people all over the world that received corporal punishment and never became violent. On the other hand, I believe if you are raised without it you are just as prone if not more prone to violence than people who were raised with it.

Just because you found some information on the different ministries on the internet, definitely does not make you an expert on any of them.
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #111 on: July 22, 2010, 12:18:44 PM »
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god dude yer an idiot. i saw children beaten with belts, paddled and the precious bible they held so "dearly". i personally was placed in lock up for 3 days in the month of july with no food or drink (i drank the water from the toilet tank). i saw grown men teach children how to get away with raping other children(robert plath was the teacher). i know of 2 anchor boys that were" sent home" to only find out by those 2 boys parents that they never got home nor did their parents have any idea or knowledge of their kid being sent home. i knew the roloff family. lester never abused us when i was in his homes, he was just an old man. maybe i should discuss how i was thrown against a wall by my throat by a staff member named greg blood, why was i attacked you ask, cuz i didnt wake up fast enough. he yanked me out of bed and picked me up by my throat and slammed me up agaiasnt a cinderblock wall. i was in anchortraz from 82 to 85 in corpus christi. let me guess when you were there you spent most of yer time at the canal fishing. oh yes the canal where lighthouse men showed anchor boys what the words "prison rape" meant. i was at the canal once. i didnt even get to spend the nite there. i almost took out my potential rapists eye out with a fishing rod. so yes you are so right there was NEVER ANY KIND OF ABUSE IN THE HOMES. IT WAS LIKE BAND CAMP. i personally want to thank a few of the farm families for their part in keeping me safe and sane. the rest can kiss my ass and a few should consider themselves lucky that i didnt have the resources to find them 10 or 15 years ago. greg blood i hope i still find yer ass!!!!!!

I only want to comment on the two boys you say never got home. Have you considered the possibility that these boys didn't go home because they didn't want to? Maybe they didn't tell their parents they were out of Anchor because they were afraid they would just get sent somewhere else. I just can't believe that you're implying that these boys were killed at Anchor home. Do you really think something like that would happen and it not make national news? And do you not think there would be an investigation into their disappearance? You think someone wouldn't have been arrested and tried?
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #112 on: July 22, 2010, 12:19:12 PM »
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The fact that you live in a country that you live in makes it easy to understand your liberal socialist views about corporal punishment.


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:


Why does it seem that all the religious nuts are extreme [F]rightwingers?  God, guns, country.  'Murica, love it or leave it.  OMG SOSHULISM, SEEKRIT MUSLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!  RUN FER YER LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #114 on: July 22, 2010, 12:54:20 PM »
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Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "TimScrivener"
The fact that you live in a country that you live in makes it easy to understand your liberal socialist views about corporal punishment.


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:


Why does it seem that all the religious nuts are extreme [F]rightwingers?  God, guns, country.  'Murica, love it or leave it.  OMG SOSHULISM, SEEKRIT MUSLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!  RUN FER YER LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Why is it that Anne the "12 stepcrafter" from Straight, who likes to smoke pot, drink excessively,

I do what now?  I've fully admitted 'partaking of the natural weed' but who ever said I drink excessively DannyBoi?  Making shit up again to defend your precious stepcraft.  The Stepcrafters seem to have some jealousy issues over people that can actually handle their alcohol.

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show her ass on a Web Site

Which is no doubt hanging on your bedroom wall.   Eeeeewwwwwwww!

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has a "porn pic" for a avatar,

You call that porn??  

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uses vulgar language

Oh no!!  I've been caught!  I use swear words.  OMG!!!  RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!

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and loves to attack men,

Only stupid men DannyBoi.  That's why I end up attacking you so much.  You're an irresistible target.


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excuses others of extremism.

Citation please.
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Re: Roloffs
« Reply #116 on: July 22, 2010, 01:05:56 PM »
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Anne your the best....   :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:


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I.......I........ummm...................I have no idea how to respond to this.  I'm very confused.  :ftard:  :seg2:
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« Reply #119 on: July 22, 2010, 01:18:27 PM »
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Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "DannyB II"

 
Anne your the best....   :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:


 :eek:


I.......I........ummm...................I have no idea how to respond to this.  I'm very confused.  :ftard:  :seg2:

Anne can you imagine how Danny's secretary at work feels?[/i]

 :jawdrop:

I can't imagine, with the way he writes, that he would qualify for any job that would require him to have a secretary.  But, then again, some of the bosses I've had run a close second to his illiteracy.
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