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Translation please.
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 04:40:06 PM »
From the homepage of: White Rock academy:

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Visitation is highly recommended. We encourage parents and guardians to transport the student to or from the facility. A lot of times this is not feasibly possible. But we enjoy visits from families to personally get to know them. Visitation during the stay is not always possible.


My english is not so good. What does it mean?
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 05:09:58 PM »
thi is the strong model's page. Cover, you can't understand it, becasue it makes no sense. I have to assume this was written by a low level level koolaid drinker (a kid mabye) who spouts the jargon, while having no graps whatsoever of its meaning, or even what it's supposed to mean.




""""""""""""""""""""""""""The Strong Model of Interaction and Intervention

The following diagram provides a graphical look at the Strong Model. The diagram itself is quite simple. However, the dynamics surrounding its proper implementation are powerful and insightful. (See also Origins of the Strong Model)

To summarize what you are seeing, and to help you understand the power of the model, look simply at the matrix approach to interaction:

1. Implied in the process from left to right, the equation states that the desired outcome of all discipline levels (authority, group, and self), when combined with helpful intent, is value-based performance. This goes beyond mere obedience, which requires only adherence to the dictates of authority.

2. Following the flow from top to bottom, the equation implies that the individual (self) is closer to his/her problems than anyone else. If the self level of discipline can become motivated to seek solutions on his/her own, without continued intervention from other levels of discipline, long-term success is assured. Though the individual may seek help from other levels of discipline, the individual becomes vested in personal success, and therefore does not wait for intervention to overcome issues as they arise.

Note that the most important level of discipline is self discipline, when it comes to solving problems. However, it is the authority level who is responsible for maintaining a climate and culture of change, growth, and safety. The dynamics of this understood difference in roles is critical for individual, group, and leadership success.

Observe the model, and read on.


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Parents, and often staff members and intervention specialists regularly become caught in the trap of creating systems of interaction that actually reinforce the thinking errors of troubled young people, and in effect reinforce their negative power. For instance, consequences and punishments alone are not solutions to problems. Yet the overwhelming majority of authority figures have been taught their entire lives that rigid, well-defined consequences for inappropriate action provides adequate control over negative behavior. Therefore, when they issue a consequence, they incorrectly believe that they have done all they need to do to solve a child's problem.

Although this basic flow of thought is quite simple, consider these questions:


Who needs to solve the child's problems? The adult or the child?


Who is responsible for the child's problems? The adult or the child?


If the adult continually administers consequences and rewards, thinking this is sufficient, the child may (or may not) hop through the hoops of performance for the adult. But if the child's values remain inconsistent with the adult's, has the problem been solved? What will happen when the adult, the consequences, and the rewards are no longer around?

In his seminars to parents, and in his instruction to staff members and intervention specialists, Michael Behning stresses that inappropriate (and far too common) approaches to child and adolescent discipline actually reinforce weakness, and fail to demand strength. Why, ultimately, do adults fail to demand value-based performance of the children in their charge? The answers to that question vary. Often adults simply don't believe the children are capable of that kind of maturity or strength. Sometimes, however, the adults have been taught to deal with behavior problems through conflict and punishment, and they simply don't realize that there are far more powerful ways to handle adolescent problems. Sadly, sometimes adults don't care enough to attempt, then to stay loyal to other, stronger approaches to child management. This occurs in family, academic, and treatment settings far too often.

Ironically, young people are eager to display their strength. Yet their thinking errors often interpret strength as destructive or defiant behavior. This is compounded when a child's self-concept is low due to learning or psychological problems, drug use, abuse issues, etc. Moreover, when a troubled child "digs in his heels" against a parent or authority figure, his errors in thought keep him defiant. Why? Because he thinks he is strong. Sometimes an unpopular child in a classroom actually gains the reward of being the hero of the classroom's subculture simply by fighting against the teacher, rules, rewards, and consequences.

Subscribe to the Strong Model newsletter (Demanding Strength), and participate in Strong Model Seminars and Workshops for far more depth and insight into the dynamics of the Strong Model of Interaction and Intervention. But ask yourself these final questions, and honestly consider the answers.


If an adult administers a punishment, and the child chooses to behave as a result of the punishment (or to avoid the punishment), who is in control, the adult or the child? Has not the child chosen to be in control?


If an adult provides a reward, and a child does what is desired for the reward, who is in control of the childs's behaviors, the adult or the child?


If the child has been in control all along, what happens when the child chooses to no longer respond to the punishments and rewards of authority? Here's you're clue: the child keeps the same control he/she always had. From that point forward the adult's punishment and reward system becomes futile, and will completely fail without becoming increasingly oppressive and difficult to manage.


How often do you think adults suffer from the delusion that their systems of rewards and consequences keep them in control?

The failure of adults to understand the power of adolescents limits their ability to draw upon that power. Adults feel they need to control. Adolescents naturally fight against giving up their perceived power, and suddenly adults and adolescents find themselves in the middle of a power struggle. Sadly, with proper intervention, both the adults and the adolescents can get what they want."""""""""""""""""""""

Don't they mean to say the opposite? That happily with internevtion, kids and adults can get what they want?

Otherwise they mean that it sucks that both adults and kids reach their goals. None of these program bullshit papers truly make sense , except for the subtextual totalism you can extract. They cannot make sense becasuse if they did, they'd esplicitly admit that they are torturing kids into reaching a "brainwashed" state
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2007, 06:05:17 PM »
Holy shit, they have it literally backwards.

The really scary thing is that they have almost everything right- that rewards and punishments don't fundamentally work, etc- and then they use THAT logic to justify forcible brainwashing, disgusting mind games, and abuse!

Exactly how the FUCK did they get from Point A to Point B in their thinking? If they followed their own logic to its natural conclusion, their program, or any program, could not exist!

It's like they're TRYING to create hatred monsters.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2007, 09:23:04 PM »
http://www.strongmodel.com/

can someone screen save this? I don't know how, and its so crazy and disturbing, i'm afraid they'll take the madness down and deny it's existance
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2007, 09:27:48 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
http://www.strongmodel.com/

can someone screen save this? I don't know how, and its so crazy and disturbing, i'm afraid they'll take the madness down and deny it's existance

Alt + File > Save (Page) As > Save as type: Web Page, complete. > click Save

That'll do it, and it'll retain more than just what fits the screen....

That'll be $5, please.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2007, 06:30:49 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2007, 12:20:24 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Why is Kansas an attraction to these program owners?
Licensing standards, maybe?


Kansas Licensing
http://www.kdheks.gov/bcclr/regs.html
Regs for RTCs
http://www.kdheks.gov/bcclr/regs/reside ... arding.htm

Very lame regulations. Need to be updated.
I couldn't find a facilities look up or reports on inspections of licensed facilities. If anyone finds either, please post a link.
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Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

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Re: Translation please.
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2007, 06:03:15 AM »
Quote from: ""Covergaard""
From the homepage of: White Rock academy:

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Visitation is highly recommended. We encourage parents and guardians to transport the student to or from the facility. A lot of times this is not feasibly possible. But we enjoy visits from families to personally get to know them. Visitation during the stay is not always possible.

My english is not so good. What does it mean?


Dont worry covergaard neither is theirs! They are saying that they encourage visits from parents but sometimes this is not possible. They don't say why sometimes it is not possible
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Re: Utah Program Owners/Employees Opening Programs in Kansas
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2008, 09:34:27 AM »
Tipton connection to WWASP ??

Look here: Link

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my name iis dakota lane. i was sent to Tipton academy. it is very similer to TB. i was their for 6 months. they always threatend to send us their if we were bad. i new a kid who was in TB for 3 months as a13 year old. any way i have many opinoins and stories i would love to share. these places need to be shut down!!!
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Re: Kansas Axes White Rock Academy
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2009, 10:26:23 AM »
This place was founded by two members of the Madsen family, based out of Cedar City, Utah. It is yet another example of Utah based program operators setting up shop in small, naive, and economically vulnerable communities located out-of-state. I guess Kansas wasn't such a pushover after all.

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Salina Journal

White Rock Academy shut down by state
Treatment center for troubled youth accused of multiple violations

By DAVID CLOUSTON
2/20/2009


ESBON -- The White Rock Academy, a residential treatment center for troubled adolescents ages 11 to 18, was ordered shut down by state health officials Thursday and academy officials have until 3 p.m. Monday to find other arrangements for the 24 youth housed there.

The academy's license was suspended after inspectors on at least three occasions -- Jan. 16, Feb. 6 and Feb. 13 -- found emergency exit doors locked in violation of the state fire and safety code.

The facility had been ordered twice this month by the Kansas Department of Health and Environment and the Kansas State Fire Marshal's office to remove the locks.

The KDHE order also alleges the facility was failing to provide intensive mental health, drug and alcohol treatment to meet the levels of care needed by the residents.

At least one youth was reportedly handcuffed throughout his month-long stay at the facility in August 2007, the order states.

KDHE also charges that out-of-state youths at the academy did not have state authorities' permission to be admitted to a Kansas facility.

Deputies accompanied a representative from the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, at her request, to serve the emergency suspension order on the facility, Jewell County Sheriff David Fullerton said Thursday.

The order stated the suspension was necessary to protect youths at the facility from physical abuse or substantial threats to their health or safety.

No one representing the academy could be reached for comment Thursday.

Licensed in 2007

The academy was issued an operating license by the state in April 2007, and is housed in the former White Rock Middle School. The school in Esbon, which is located about 12 miles northwest of Mankato and has a population of about 130, closed in 2006 when the White Rock and Mankato school districts consolidated into the Rock Hills School District.

The empty school building was transformed into the White Rock Academy by Ted and Tom Madsen of Cedar City, Utah.

The academy's Web site states it helps youth overcome self-destructive behavior through its "unique setting in the rural heartland of America" providing "an excellent therapeutic atmosphere" that includes working with and caring for various animals. The site includes photos of youths feeding calves and interacting with horses, as well as doing service projects around the town.

Services not offered

However, the state alleges that the equine therapy, individual academic tutoring and other specialized services were not being provided by the academy, said Tracy Diel, director of the administrative hearing office for KDHE.

Diel's office in Topeka hears appeals concerning administrative orders issued by the agency.

He said Thursday that there is a separate matter involving a Sept. 12 intent-to-suspend notice issued by KDHE against the White Rock Academy.

In addition to not providing the specialized services that the academy advertised, the earlier notice alleged that the academy changed policies without first submitting them to KDHE for approval. It also alleged that the facility was understaffed, compared to its stated ratio of staff to residents.

Other regulations violated

Diel said the facility was accused of recording in files treatments that were not actually provided. The state also accused the facility of violating regulations concerning youths' contact with their parents.

Lastly, he said, the facility was accused of not requiring staff to sign documents indicating they had read and agreed to abide by the academy's discipline policies, and of failing to pay its operating license renewal fee.

Diel said there was a pre-hearing conference between the parties concerning the notice. There were negotiations, and time extensions were granted so facility officials could pursue a resolution of the charges without going to a formal hearing.

A hearing on the "intent to suspend" notice is set for June 22. A hearing on the emergency suspension order, if requested, would have to be scheduled separately. Such a hearing must be requested by academy representatives within 15 days, under state law.

Diel said Mankato attorney Kevin Phillips is representing the academy on the intent to suspend notice. Phillips said Thursday that the academy intends to vigorously contest the allegations in that notice; he said it's possible that a Topeka attorney would be retained to contest the emergency suspension.

Phillips said he could not comment about the details of any of the allegations facing the academy while litigation is pending.

Reporter David Clouston can be reached at 822-1403 or by e-mail at [email protected].


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White Rock Academy's Emergency Order of Suspension
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2009, 10:29:51 AM »
Emergency Order of Suspension (pdf, 4pp)



BEFORE THE KANSAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT

KDHE Case No. 09-H-36

In the Matter of Licensure of
White Rock Academy Corporation,
a.k.a. White Rock Academy, Inc.
d/b/a White Rock Academy
203 Grand Avenue
Esbon, Kansas  66941

A Residential Center

License Number: 59805



EMERGENCY ORDER OF SUSPENSION


NOW on this 19th day of February, 2009, Roderick L. Bremby, Secretary of the Kansas Department of Health and Environment [Secretary], reviews the file of White Rock Academy Corporation, a.k.a. White Rock Academy Inc, d/b/a White Rock Academy, 203 Grand Avenue, Esbon, Kansas 66941, a residential center [Licensee or White Rock Academy].

WHEREUPON, the Secretary finds that:

1. KDHE issued a license to Licensee to operate a residential center effective April 6, 2007, for eighteen (18) female and nine (9) male residents, ages 11 years and older.

2. On or about January 16, 2009, KDHE made an on-site complaint/compliance visit and found the facility doors locked, preventing egress. The facility was informed by the State Fire Marshall on or about January 27, 2009, to not lock their emergency exit doors. On or about February 6, 2009, KDHE conducted an evening survey at approximately 8:40 p.m. and found two emergency exit doors locked. One of the doors was key locked and one was chained. KDHE cited the facility for non-compliance and instructed Administration and facility staff to not lock the doors. The investigation conducted on or about February 13, 2009, discovered that the facility continues to lock their doors in evening hours. On February 17, 2009, the Kansas State Fire Marshall issued an Order to Cease and Desist to White Rock Academy ordering White Rock Academy to remove the locks and to come into immediate compliance with the Kansas Life Safety Code. Operation in the facility is inadequate to implement the program and to provide for the welfare of the residents.

3. The facility continues to be in non-compliance with K.A.R. 28-4-274(b) by failing to provide intensive mental health, drug and alcohol therapeutic services to meet the identified high level needs of the residents accepted into care. KDHE allowed Licensee until February 18, 2009, by 5:00 p.m. to provide a copy of the contract with Dr. Howard, Howard Psychiatric Services and other documentation. Licensee failed to provide a copy with Dr. Howard.

4. Recent reports and interviews with a youth and former staff confirm that Licensee's Administration instructed staff to handcuff a youth to prevent self-harm throughout the youth's stay at the facility, for approximately 30 days, that began in August 2007. The facility later accepted this youth back on October 12, 2007 through November 4, 2007 at which time they transported the youth to Stormont Vail West in Topeka, Kansas.

5. The facility was not operating in accordance with K.A.R.28-4-273(e)(6). All twenty four residents currently placed in the facility did not have approval from The Kansas Interstate Compact for Placement (ICPC) at the facility.

6. K.S.A. 65-524 authorizes the Secretary to suspend a license to operate a residential center prior to a hearing when, in the opinion of the Secretary, said suspension is necessary to protect any child in the child care facility from physical or mental abuse, abandonment, or any other substantial threat to health or safety.

7. Due to the facts contained in the paragraphs above, the Secretary has determined that immediate suspension of the Licensee's license in order to protect youth in the Licensee's care from physical abuse or a substantial threat to their health or safety. Licensee has until Monday, February 23, 2009, at 3:00 p.m. to make arrangements with the youth's parents to move the youth.

8. Licensee is required, pursuant to K.S.A. 65-506, to notify the parents and guardians of the youth in care in writing that its license to operate a child care facility has been suspended.

WHEREUPON, the Secretary hereby suspends Licensee's license to operate a residential center, effective immediately, thereby prohibiting the Licensee from caring for youth. This Emergency Order of Suspension remains in effect until the issuance of an order rescinding this order.


RIGHT TO A HEARING

The Licensee has a right to request a hearing on the above issues and proposed order in accordance with the provisions of the Kansas Administrative Procedure Act. To obtain a hearing, a request for a hearing must be filed within 15 days of the date this notice is mailed, which date is indicated by the Certificate of Service below. Failure to file a timely request will result in a waiver of Licensee's right to a hearing, and this Emergency Order of Suspension will become a Final Order suspending the Licensee's license to operate a child care center.

If you want to request a hearing, a written request for a hearing must be filed with Tracy D. Diel, Director, Office of Administrative Hearings, 1020 South Kansas Avenue, Topeka, Kansas, 66612-1327, telephone number (785) 296-2433. (Please indicate a telephone number where you can be contacted during business hours if you request a hearing.)

This Order of Suspension is issued as an Emergency Adjudicative Proceeding under K.S.A. 77-536 of the Kansas Administrative Procedure Act. The mailing of this Order shall be notice of its issuance and is given to comply with K.S.A. 77-536(d) of the Act.

IT IS SO ORDERED.



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Roderick L. Bremby, Secretary
Kansas Department of Health and Environment
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Re: Utah Program Owners/Employees Opening Programs in Kansas
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2009, 02:54:25 AM »
so is this place still open and if so how close to the nebraska boarder is it. if it aint that far mabey i need to take a little road trip and my camera.
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Re: Utah Program Owners/Employees Opening Programs in Kansas
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2009, 03:31:44 AM »
The facility is closed, their homepage down and the parents webspace has an interesting message.

But as always you can help your detained brothers. The facilities are losely related to Tipton and Meadowlark Academy. Here is 60-70 miles down to Delphos, Kansas from the Nebraska border but under 20 miles from Delphos to Tipton.

They are ghost towns as you can see from this photo essay. Additional photos would be nice as Google Earth has not passed this town.

Upload the photos to Panoramio, so parents can see what they get before sending their kids to this place.

I have an article from a local newspapier about Tipton/Meadowlark here. The article speaks of various violations.
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Topix thread for "White Rock Academy shut down by state"
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2009, 10:55:54 AM »
There is a Topix thread with some comments for the above article, "White Rock Academy shut down by state." Here are the first twenty (at least one comment appears to have been removed):

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#1 Feb 23, 2009
word
Cawker City, KS
    word
#2 Feb 23, 2009
Jicama
Allentown, NJ
    I cannot believe they shut the school down. The White Rock Academy is the finest learning institutions in the state. The staff at the school are all real good folks and all the kids at the school are good kids who would never again cause trouble. The students will now go to private schools and on to Harvard at Kansas taxpayer expense. All the students at White Rock are good kids and will be valdictorians at Harvard, Stanford and Yale.
#4 Mar 9, 2009
Unhappy Parent
Greenville, SC
    It is quite sad when you trust a school with the well being of your child and are told they can help you, then you get an email on Friday to come and pick your child up on Monday it was not easy especially for parents who don't live close. Todd and Ted Madsen should never be able to open another school any where again they gave false hope to parents, they woun't even answer emails, or phone call, they owe money to people money that we worked for to put our children in this "School" not money from the tax payers Jicama money we paid out of our pockets hoping for the best care for our children.
#5 Mar 10, 2009
alice
Kitchener, Canada
    It sounds like a nightmare school
#6 Mar 18, 2009
Unhappy Camper -
Houston, TX
    I have not received any refund of prepaid tuition to date. The Kansas State Attorney Generals Office has files a suit against WRA at this time. The contact is Meghan Barnds. The website for the Attorney General is:
http://www.ksag.org/home/[/list]
#7 Mar 26, 2009
White Rock Student
Ames, IA
    Yes, it really does suck that the place got shut down. I was starting to do really well with my treatment and everything. Sure, the head man doesn't help out at all, but the staff & the girls were pretty much the best people that I've ever met in my life. The boys even helped me out a little bit. The place was a great place, but it just started going down hill. It's horrible and I was not ready to come back home yet. There were a lot of people going to different places, and I feel sorry that they had to start all over. White Rock wasn't exactly hell, so don't make it sound like that. It helped me and I know that.:)
#8 Mar 28, 2009
worried parent
Ocala, FL
    Where are the owners, the director, and the so called therapist? Everyone seems to have vanished. The owners were around when they were making money and have now gone into seclusion; when will we hear from them? As parents we trusted them to help our kids through whatever problems they were having. What a joke when the real problem came they all disappeared; did the owners think of the kids or only about lining their own pockets with our hard earned money
#9 Apr 3, 2009
Jewell County resident
Beloit, KS
    To all the parents of kids who were sent to the White Rock Academy: Many of us folks with deep roots in Jewell County were just as shocked and dismayed by the happenings at White Rock Academy as you were. If you did your research before you sent your kid there, you could probably figure out this part of the great USA suffers economically and demographically. So many of us hoped that the Academy would be a good thing for kids who needed help, and it would be a boost to our area, also. We have a lot of big blue sky, clean air, and great folks here; we believe and know this is a great place to raise our own children, maybe the Academy would be a good thing to help other kids. I am so disappointed that the owners of the place did not do their homework better in researching all of the hows, whys, whens, wheres, laws, and all the ins and outs of how to run and manage the facility. I am a college graduate who chose to come back home to Jewell County, and as I said earlier, greatly disappointed in the performance of the owners and management of the place. From the beginning, the owners should have realized they were going to have to figure out how to get the right qualified people with the correct certifications and licenses for social work, therapy, etc., to move here so that they could staff the place properly. Unfortunately, for people used to living in higher populated areas with many housing choices, retail stores, lots of entertainment, etc., moving to Jewell County could be a real bummer for some folks. This just isn't the place a lot of people want to move to, which is very obvious with our problems. This is a suggestion to you: If you live in a metropolitan area, and if you are fortunate to have high paying jobs, which you must have if you could afford to send your kid to White Rock Academy, you could buy a house here for two months of fees, take your 2-3 week vacation each year with your troubled teen here and bond as a family. You would get to supervise your kid here under our great blue sky while breathing our clean air with no noise to overpower the sweet songs the birds share as the rabbits frolic in your yard where later that night you can catch lightning bugs and be amazed by the canopy of brightly shining stars in the heavens that are not hidden by a layer of smog. I close with wishing all of you, parents and children, alike, that things are going better for you, and that you be thankful for what you have everyday--housing, clothing, and food on the table; and a family where you can really work on communicating and belonging.
#10 May 11, 2009
JDFarruggio123
Staten Island, NY
    I went here. and i was very unhappy, it did help me alot. from the time it was opened. i feel i have grown up and matured so much. ive ditched my bad friend. i hang out with the righ kids. im sober. im and doing so good. but i think it was because i got a wake up call. not all of the credit goes to them. the staff was wonderful and everyone was nice. they just didnt listen to te rules. the people who owned it runned the place and the staff had to do what they told them. but i do miss the staff. but not the owners. because alot of kids werent ready to go home so they had to start over in a new school all over again. and people who were so close.
#11 May 11, 2009
Jicama
Allentown, NJ
    The White Rock Academy was one of the finest learning institutions in the state until a bunch of crybaby, bedwetting, diaper wearing pansies decided that it should be shuttered. All of the kids at White Rock are now working for dynamic corporations and are captains of industry. Many are members of international think-tanks and are highly placed in secret government positions. Too bad White Rock got the axe. All the kids at White Rock are good people who would never again cause any trouble.
#12 May 12, 2009
Uphold your rights
Smith Center, KS
    the state health officials are so full of crap, now i could see if it was other reasons like abuse caught on camera or something, i think its a load of crap they shut this place down, boo, boycott the state health officials. has anyone demanded to see the report the heath nuts made?

    i hope that the records are made public!
    we demand to know!
    post the link if you have the legal report, I'd love to see if there reason was a valid one or the state just abusing more of its grant money powers.

    It also seams like a calculated move seeing how the states give out grant money, they most have lied about something, someone got rich off of this, I'm sure of it, something just stinks when they use lame excuses when it comes to heath department.
#13 May 13, 2009
JDFarruggio123
Asbury Park, NJ
    You people have no idead what your talking about.
#14 May 13, 2009
confused
Tallahassee, FL
    I can see that one of the things that was not taught at The Academy was grammar or spelling.
    As for abuse it does not have to be physical if the children were not getting the proper mental health and state rules were not followed is also abuse. Have you not read the reports? The kids all felt stressed and were not allowed to discuss it with their parents because if they did the phone call was cut short or ended; or how the state told the school 3 times to take the locks off the doors, or the type of child they began to take in had severe problems that people knew should not be there.
    Yes, towards the end someone began to make a lot of money and the care of the kids (mentally) was not be giving. I believe one of the owners began to see WRA as their personal piggy bank and all they cared ofr was the money.
    By the way what are the owners up to now? Does anyone know?
#15 May 15, 2009
JDFarruggio123
Belmar, NJ
    I didnt have to read the article, i was one of the student til the day it closed. i lived through it. so dont tell me about it. and who gives a rats ass what the owner are doing. probobly scamming more people in another school in utah.
#16 May 15, 2009
JDFarruggio123
Belmar, NJ
    I dont need to read the articles. i lived it, i was one of there students til the day it closed. your just a random person reading about it and judjing people. and they didnt teach grammer or spelling. or typing. there was a program called pluto. its helped but it wasnt hands on. and who care what the owners are doing. there proboly scamming parent for more money in utah with another school.
#17 May 15, 2009
JDFarruggio123
Belmar, NJ
    I Went To WRA Too. Whats Your Name?
#18 May 15, 2009
JDFarruggio123
Belmar, NJ
    White Rock Student wrote:
    Yes, it really does suck that the place got shut down. I was starting to do really well with my treatment and everything. Sure, the head man doesn't help out at all, but the staff & the girls were pretty much the best people that I've ever met in my life. The boys even helped me out a little bit. The place was a great place, but it just started going down hill. It's horrible and I was not ready to come back home yet. There were a lot of people going to different places, and I feel sorry that they had to start all over. White Rock wasn't exactly hell, so don't make it sound like that. It helped me and I know that.:)
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    #19 May 16, 2009
    confused
    Tallahassee, FL
      I think you need to calm down a little I also know what was going on and what was not going on at WRA. I had a very important person in my life who also attended the Academy. I was not and am not someone who just happenened upon this blog. Your response shows that maybe you need to continue with some kind of therapy; I can understand your anger but don't you think some of it should have gone just a little bit by now.
      Let me ask you several questions did you enjoy having the doors locked at all times? WRA was not supposed to be a locked down treatment center, did you get all the mental health you were supposed to be getting? did you enjoy the change of rules, where was the director when he was needed I have many more questions but right now is not the right time to ask them of you as you are ready to explode. All I ask of you is that you take this second chance you were given and change your life around. I wish you the best, and suggest you read the articles that can be gotten on salina.com
    #20 May 18, 2009
    JDFarruggio123
    Staten Island, NY
      Im not about you explode. i just got made because you were being rude. and i dont need thereophy. im doing find. and it says your from flordia, are you mollys parents?
    #21 May 18, 2009
    JDFarruggio123
    Staten Island, NY
      Im not about to explode. i just got mad because you were being rude. and i dont need therephy. im doing fine. and it says your from flordia. are you molly's parents?


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    Re: Utah Program Owners/Employees Opening Programs in Kansas
    « Reply #29 on: July 28, 2009, 11:46:55 AM »
    Comments for David Clouston's article "White Rock Academy shut down by state" (Salina Journal), continued (#s 22 onwards):

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    #22 May 21, 2009
    confused
    Tallahassee, FL
      I am not Molly's mom; I do not have any idea who Molly is. I was not being rude. I think you need to go back and reread your postings as you are the one who was rude.If this is the way you react to someone that you do not know I can only imagine how you react and interact with others which is why you were probably wound up in WRA.
      Before you go off on things you should have fully researched info. Are your aware te the State of Kansas gave WRA 3 chances to change the key locks back to regular locks (I believe that in itself is a fire hazard. The mental health of the children was not being met. The believe the on site therapist was not a licensed therapist and the rules of the school were changed by the new "therapist" nd that many of the students were not happy with the new "therapist" in addition the director of school was often not there and when the children wanted to speak with him he was often unavilable to both students and parents.
      I really think you need to speak to someone and sort out some of your anger issues if this is the way you speak to a stranger I can only hope you soeak with someone you know with a little more respect.
      Please take care of ourself and remenber that you are loved becasuse who ever sent you to WRA must have loved you a lot to do what they did. Best of luck to you and may you look back at all of this and sayy to yourself "I was one 1 lucky kid to have had someone to love me the way the did.
    #23 Jun 5, 2009
    confused
    Tallahassee, FL
      I thibk you need to reread your blogs. The are writtem with a great deal of anger and show dislike and disdain for just about anything. I
      am not Molly;s mom and you can leave any state you want as your home state. I also now about PLATO and in everything you do you learn readimg and grammar
      I think you should stop refering to people by their names as I am not so sure that the people who ayyytended the academy wanr their info shared
    #24 Jul 17, 2009
    Annonymous
    Payson, UT
      I can help you find the Madsens. I assure you they are still up to their old tricks and living high lives with borrowed/stolen funds....not hard-earned money. Some one needs to stop them!

      worried parent wrote:
      Where are the owners, the director, and the so called therapist? Everyone seems to have vanished. The owners were around when they were making money and have now gone into seclusion; when will we hear from them? As parents we trusted them to help our kids through whatever problems they were having. What a joke when the real problem came they all disappeared; did the owners think of the kids or only about lining their own pockets with our hard earned money
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      #25 Jul 18, 2009
      rebel with a cause
      Randall, KS
        confused wrote:
        I am not Molly's mom; I do not have any idea who Molly is. I was not being rude. I think you need to go back and reread your postings as you are the one who was rude.If this is the way you react to someone that you do not know I can only imagine how you react and interact with others which is why you were probably wound up in WRA.
        Before you go off on things you should have fully researched info. Are your aware te the State of Kansas gave WRA 3 chances to change the key locks back to regular locks (I believe that in itself is a fire hazard. The mental health of the children was not being met. The believe the on site therapist was not a licensed therapist and the rules of the school were changed by the new "therapist" nd that many of the students were not happy with the new "therapist" in addition the director of school was often not there and when the children wanted to speak with him he was often unavilable to both students and parents.
            I really think you need to speak to someone and sort out some of your anger issues if this is the way you speak to a stranger I can only hope you soeak with someone you know with a little more respect.
            Please take care of ourself and remenber that you are loved becasuse who ever sent you to WRA must have loved you a lot to do what they did. Best of luck to you and may you look back at all of this and sayy to yourself "I was one 1 lucky kid to have had someone to love me the way the did.
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        I almost considered white rock academy for my son,,,but i can see it was better to move my kids to a farm and change there lifestyle..WOW this has amazing parrelels to the way i have witnessed local government
        behaving...the beloit juevenile facility is being shutdown too ...i hope and pray that all the changes are for the BETTER,,,i don't think most of us common people can take much more corruption before we all get rebelious[/list]
        #26 Jul 19, 2009
        Allen Allentownian
        Allentown, NJ
          Do you have any weed?
        #27 Jul 21, 2009
        concerned
        Beloit, KS
          I'm pretty sure that is enough with all the weed posts in all the forums, no one thinks you're cool. Please move on with your life and grow up, it gets really old.


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