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Offline Anonymous

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bullshit diagnoses, through recent decades
« on: November 09, 2007, 02:30:37 PM »
In the 90s it was:

Oppositional defiance disorder (since declared not a real* disorder. Oops, our bad. Sorry about that lobotomy

Borderline personality (ridiculous, fuck you)

ADD

This decade:
 
Aspergers (it’s all the rage, you never heard of it, now everyone’s got it. It’s today’s version of borderline…a kid isn’t doing anything “badâ€
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Let me guess - you're a borderline????
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2007, 03:01:27 PM »
A diagnosis should not be used to stigmatize, hinder or be used *against* someone to incarcerate them.

However, calling them *bullshit* is ignorant.  People do suffer from them and are subsequently helped by ethical practioners and/or medications.

You can argue the efficacy of the DSM etc. or medication.

Drugs are drugs. Use them wisely, they can be your friend.
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Re: Let me guess - you're a borderline????
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 04:08:46 PM »
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A diagnosis should not be used to stigmatize, hinder or be used *against* someone to incarcerate them.

However, calling them *bullshit* is ignorant.  People do suffer from them and are subsequently helped by ethical practioners and/or medications.

You can argue the efficacy of the DSM etc. or medication.

Drugs are drugs. Use them wisely, they can be your friend.

Let me guess - you're a borderline????


Re: Let me guess .... you jump to  conclusions, socially. Therefore, you are schizophrenic. No? Well, that's one of the symptoms of non-hallucinatory schizophrenia. See the problem in "diagnosing" mental illness?


Oppositional defiance disorder has indeed been shown to be "bullshit", in that it doesn't exist, AT ALL!

Borderline personality disorder is also "suspected" of being a disorder that does not, in fact, exist. It is overwhelmingly "diagnosed" in women, suggesting, not only, is it "bullshit", it's bullshit based in bigotry.

Here are the "symptoms": pervasive instability in moods, interpersonal relationships, self-image, and behavior. This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity

There are so many other possible explanations than a “personality disorderâ€
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Re: Let me guess - you're a borderline????
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 04:33:59 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
A diagnosis should not be used to stigmatize, hinder or be used *against* someone to incarcerate them.

However, calling them *bullshit* is ignorant.  People do suffer from them and are subsequently helped by ethical practioners and/or medications.

You can argue the efficacy of the DSM etc. or medication.

Drugs are drugs. Use them wisely, they can be your friend.

Judging from the reply directly following it, it appears this anon post was edited...? Just curious.
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Re: Let me guess - you're a borderline????
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 04:39:52 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
A diagnosis should not be used to stigmatize, hinder or be used *against* someone to incarcerate them.

However, calling them *bullshit* is ignorant.  People do suffer from them and are subsequently helped by ethical practioners and/or medications.

You can argue the efficacy of the DSM etc. or medication.

Drugs are drugs. Use them wisely, they can be your friend.
Judging from the reply directly following it, it appears this anon post was edited...? Just curious.


I cut and pasted the "subject" into the text, because exhibited in fine print  in the "descprition" portion of the web display, you couldnt see what i was responding to.  :wink:
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 06:55:39 PM »
Did someone already mention OCD?
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2007, 06:56:54 PM »
This is my reply...

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2007, 07:02:06 PM »
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Did someone already mention OCD?


or wearing all black,  I think that should be added, we had problems with that one in our family.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2007, 07:41:18 PM »
How about being too smart?  :rofl:
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2007, 08:52:44 PM »
i was diagnosed with BPD i believe its PTSD from this fuckin industry. FUCK that BPD shiiiiiiaaaatt
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Re: Let me guess - you're a borderline????
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2007, 08:56:38 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
A diagnosis should not be used to stigmatize, hinder or be used *against* someone to incarcerate them.

However, calling them *bullshit* is ignorant.  People do suffer from them and are subsequently helped by ethical practioners and/or medications.

You can argue the efficacy of the DSM etc. or medication.

Drugs are drugs. Use them wisely, they can be your friend.

Let me guess - you're a borderline????


Re: Let me guess .... you jump to  conclusions, socially. Therefore, you are schizophrenic. No? Well, that's one of the symptoms of non-hallucinatory schizophrenia. See the problem in "diagnosing" mental illness?


Oppositional defiance disorder has indeed been shown to be "bullshit", in that it doesn't exist, AT ALL!

Borderline personality disorder is also "suspected" of being a disorder that does not, in fact, exist. It is overwhelmingly "diagnosed" in women, suggesting, not only, is it "bullshit", it's bullshit based in bigotry.

Here are the "symptoms": pervasive instability in moods, interpersonal relationships, self-image, and behavior. This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity

There are so many other possible explanations than a “personality disorderâ€
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2007, 09:06:41 PM »
you wouldnt be diagnosed with shit if you didnt go to the psychiatrist and pay them money. .. stop going duh.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2007, 09:22:21 PM »
Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
How about being too smart?  :rofl:


Yeah, "intellectualism" was part of my disease. Also, not swearing, words "bigger than marmalade", and not shaving my legs.
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Re: bullshit diagnoses, through recent decades
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2007, 03:51:43 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
In the 90s it was:

Oppositional defiance disorder (since declared not a real* disorder. Oops, our bad. Sorry about that lobotomy

Borderline personality (ridiculous, fuck you)

ADD

This decade:
 
Aspergers (it’s all the rage, you never heard of it, now everyone’s got it. It’s today’s version of borderline…a kid isn’t doing anything “badâ€
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2007, 06:17:19 PM »
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Responsible parents and doctors will always eliminate medical and behavioral issues before trying medication. That being said, I do believe there is some overdiagnosis going on today, as there always has been, and docs who are not specialists sometimes rush too quickly into medication, and some parents look for a "quick fix". Any parent who puts their child on medication needs to do a LOT of homework first.


I agree with you, pitbull, but there are some areas in which coming up with a diagnoses and medicating and keeping your child medicated is beneficial to the family financially.  The type of medication your child is receiving can dictate how much you will receive from the state.
There are presently about 580,000 kids in foster care and the families are paid accordingly:

.........................Daily............................................................Monthly
Ages  00-12 ....   $14.24/Day......................................................$427/Month per child,+ clothing allowance

Ages  13-18 ....   $17.58/Day......................................................$527/Month per child,+ clothing allowance


If you can manage to get the children diagnosed with something, anything then your monthly income increases as follows:  (Levels indicate the severity of the problem), Ritalin being a Level I maybe and more psychotic would increase you to Level II and Level III.

..............................Level I.......................Level II...................................Level III.............
Ages  00-12.............$5..................................$10..........................................$15.....................an additional $150 – 450/Month per child,+ clothing allowance

Ages  13-18.............$6..................................$11..........................................$16.....................an additional $180 – 480/Month per child,+ clothing allowance

Med. Fragile............$8..................................$13..........................................$18.....................an additional $240 – 540/Month per child, + clothing allowance

The Child Welfare League of America reports, "Approximately 60 percent of all children in out-of-home care have moderate to severe mental health problems [ ... ] Adolescents living with foster parents or in group homes have about four times the rate of serious psychiatric disorders than those living with their own families
A 2001 study found that foster care children were more likely to have a mental health or substance abuse condition than other children receiving Medicaid


The families that have been in the system the longest can get all their kids on medication at a very young age and keep them on the medication even if it means having to relocate the family before the doctor can change his diagnoses.  Many of these kids that are placed into foster care have special issues to deal with that other kids don’t have to like:

•   blaming themselves and feeling guilty about removal from their birth parents
•   wishing to return to birth parents even if they were abused by them
•   feeling unwanted if awaiting adoption for a long time
•   feeling helpless about multiple changes in foster parents over time
•   having mixed emotions about attaching to foster parents
•   feeling insecure and uncertain about their future
•   reluctantly acknowledging positive feelings for foster parents


But I don’t think this would account for the statistic of medicating these kids at a rate of 60% or better.  

The same problem exists in our welfare system also, there are approximately 5,800,000 people receiving welfare as of September and they receive similar incentives to medicate.



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