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« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2007, 07:26:51 PM »
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You have a lot of preconceptions about Buddhism (and religion in general) that you keep trying to get me to conform to.  Quit. Isn't it professionally unethical for you to be posting your crap on here?

No, this is Who's MO. Derailing threads he'd rather parents not read. If he can engage you or anyone else is senseless debate over the price of pork in China or how autos are made in Japan, he knows the reading audience will get board and stop reading the thread, especially when he can keep it going for page after page.... all in the name of 'free speech'. More like free program advertising/propoganda.
Ignore it, or c/p it into a new thread and address it there till the cows come home.


Oh, real nice, blame me again....... I can take it.
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« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2007, 07:48:49 PM »
Deborah

Write to the GAO and share your knowlege. You are very articulate and knowledgeable. They can use all the help available.

I called Miller's office twice this morning.  There were two deaths in WWASP that I know of. I want to know where WWASP is all of this exposing of abuse "camp"

WWASP was not mentioned.     Miller knows about WWASP.
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« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2007, 08:28:00 PM »
NATSAP wants regulation, huh?  Then why didn't they ask Congress for it a long time ago?  They had to be dragged in and immediately took a defensive position.
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« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2007, 08:39:15 PM »
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George Bush is not some dopey little pawn that let off his leash every once in a while.  The facility that I was in years ago has continued to operate because of much assistance from the Prez and others like him.  After several documented accounts of abuse he alligned himself with Roloff Evangelistic Enterprises and helped them to keep their doors open time after time.  He does not give a rats ass about protecting kids from abuse, and anyone who thinks he does is severely misinformed.


I'm surprised that Bush senior never sent George W to a program to help him deal with his cocaine habit.
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« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2007, 08:43:20 PM »
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Jan Moss, executive director of the National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Programs, a trade group, said many kids have been helped by residential treatment programs.

She said the industry was taking steps to improve. "Clearly we still have a very long way to go," she said.


That is a pretty loud and clear admission of just how unethical and ineffective this industry is.

What's the deal on Jan Moss (Spring Ridge Academy) anyway? She divulged that her nephew was abused in an offshore program. Which WWASP program was it?
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« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2007, 08:51:56 PM »
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I'm surprised that Bush senior never sent George W to a program to help him deal with his cocaine habit.


He did. We call it "The White House".
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« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2007, 09:31:41 PM »
Yes no doubt George Miller has ensured that a new era of regulation, unenforcable by the US government, will sweep across the land.

YAY....

Someone give me a ring when the push for a Youth Civil Rights Ammendment is getting proposed.

Overall nice to see Natsap pimp slapped even if it will waste money, time, and resources. Now we can all look forward to rescueing more children from these licensed regulated facilities in the future.

bottom line:

We at least will get some good material to use against Nutsack for the future.

Perhaps we may be able to use as leverage against programmes to fight them on an economic basis.

George Miller just scored a bunch of votes.. obviously his mission was accomplished.
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Re: The Prez
« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2007, 09:35:51 PM »
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I'm surprised that Bush senior never sent George W to a program to help him deal with his cocaine habit.


What makes you think they didn't? I've always been suspicious of that little stint "volunteering" to council inner city kids in Texas back in the, what, late `70's or early `80's?
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« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2007, 09:46:14 PM »
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Someone give me a ring when the push for a Youth Civil Rights Ammendment is getting proposed.

Why don't you give Miller a ring and suggest it? He and/or others mentioned several times about this being a Civil/Human Rights issue.

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George Miller just scored a bunch of votes.. obviously his mission was accomplished.


Do you really think he would have worked on this for 20 some years for votes? Did you watch the hearing?
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« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2007, 09:49:40 PM »
Anyone want to Make 10/10 a holiday?

Or a party day?  :D

I finally saw the report, and I saw the shit on the evening news. I'm astonished. I had no fucking wild dream that this would make the evening fucking news.

We've finally come to the point that it is a matter of when, not if anymore. We have a lot of work ahead of us but their days are numbered. Children are probably already coming home and more are on the way.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex ... affil=wjxx <- 4min report on it.

I feel so relieved... its like I can sleep again. Like I could drop this forever and know it will turn out okay, even though there is still a lot I can and should do to help, that is a relief.

Psy, hit me up in YIM or AIM btw, we need to talk.

TEN-TEN FOR THE WIN.
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« Reply #85 on: October 10, 2007, 10:49:40 PM »
here's the link for those who missed the hearing....


http://edwork.edgeboss.net/wmedia/edwor ... 101007.asx
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« Reply #86 on: October 10, 2007, 10:56:01 PM »
March 16, 2007

Jan Moss, NATSAP Executive Director, met with Denise Forte, Director of Education Policy, and Michael Zola, Chief Investigative Counsel on February 25, 2007. Ms. Forte is leading the research on Representative George Miller's bill, H.R. 1738. Joining Ms. Moss were Mark Covall, Executive Director of the National Association of Psychiatric Health Services (NAPHS) and Michael Barnes, Esq. DCBA Law. The purpose of the meeting was to present the recommendations of NATSAP and NAPHS to H.R. 1738.

Jan Moss and Michael Barnes also met with several of the staff of the new Education Committee and Healthy Families Sub-Committee members to introduce NATSAP and their work with Representative Miller's staff on his legislation.

NATSAP remains committed to offering the assistance of their organization and the assistance of the professionals in their membership to Governors, Legislators, and other organizations interested in the health and mental health of young people.
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« Reply #87 on: October 10, 2007, 11:17:30 PM »
And another....

The following is a letter from NATSAP to Shay Bilchik, President and CEO, Child Welfare League of America, 440 First Street NW, Washington, DC 20001.

Dear Mr. Bilchik,

The National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Programs and our members are concerned about your letter of August 11, 2005 to the Members of Congress regarding therapeutic boarding schools. While we appreciate the intent of your letter, we are concerned of the impact it may have on those programs and schools who are doing excellent work.

Your letter to the editor of the Boston Globe on “brat campsâ€
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« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2007, 04:05:04 AM »
if this sounds like a stupid question I apologize but what is the point of these hearings. is it to give the relevant stakeholders their "day in court" or to inform congress before a congressman comes up with a bill? What outcome is expected?
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« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2007, 05:09:05 AM »
If the link isn't working, you can find a torrent file and get the full video at:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/934543

File size is 276 MB
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