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Hyde Enrollment
Ursus:
RELAVENT GUIDESTAR LINKS for HYDE:
Boarding schools:
Hyde-Bath
Hyde-Woodstock[/list]
Public charter schools:
Hyde-DC
Hyde-Bronx[/list]
Other:
The Hyde Foundation
F A S T INC.[/list]
Not sure:
THE@CIVA SCHOOL COMMUNITY COALITION[/list]
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---Summary of the original post, enrollments for the 2007-2008 academic year:
Hyde-Bath: enrollment of 157
Hyde-Woodstock: enrollment of 167[/list]
From Guidestar, re. Bath campus:HYDE SCHOOL WAS FOUNDED TO PROVIDE A PRIVATE SCHOOL EDUCATION WHICH CENTERS UPON INDIVIDUAL GROWTH AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE TEACHING OF VALUES AND COURAGE, INTEGRITY, CONCERN FOR OTHERS, LEADERSHIP AND CURIOSITY. APPROXIMATELY 296 STUDENTS ATTENDED THE SCHOOL IN THE YEAR ENDED JUNE 30, 2006.[/list]
From Guidestar, re. Woodstock campus:HYDE SCHOOL IN SOUTH WOODSTOCK, CT WAS FOUNDED TO PROVIDE A GRADE 7-12 PRIVATE SCHOOL EDUCATION WHICH CENTERS UPON INDIVIDUAL GROWTH AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE TEACHING OF VALUES, COURAGE, INTEGRITY, CONCERN FOR OTHERS, LEADERSHIP AND CURIOSITY. APPROXIMATELY 312 STUDENTS ATTENDED THE SCHOOL DURING THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED JUNE 30, 2006[/list]
Either the numbers they reported for last year are excessively inflated, or enrollment has gone way down. Perhaps they are including the Summer Challenge students in with those figures. Does Woodstock have its own Summer Challenge, or is it only at Bath?
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By their own admission, according to the Traub article, 40% drop out during the course of the year. According to one person cited in that part of the article, only 9 members of her class of 30 were still there. That's actually 30% remaining (70% dropped out). You would think they would start out with more students to compensate the attrition rate?
Anonymous:
You would think that after forty years of high attrition rates they would question the model.
Anonymous:
If you had a restaurant and 40% of the patrons walked out before finishing their meals you would fire the chef, change the menu, change something before you went out of business.
Hyde seems to survive or thrive on this model however. None of this would bother me except for the fact that families that need some sort of help end up there and get nothing that they can use. You could argue that number is around 40%, but I think it is higher. I never dropped out but as my mother said before she died, "Hyde did nothing for you."
I say this as a warning if you are reading this and think you should send your child there. You should have clear expectations of what your child's needs are. Make them explain how they are going to meet those needs. Get it in writing. I don't disagree with the Gaulds on everything. Being a parent is the most important job you will do in your life. Don't subcontract it to any one without clear expectations. Don't subcontract the job of parenting to some one with a one size fits all solution that may not fit your child or worse, damage your child. Hyde does not work for everyone. Based on the numbers of the attrition rate, odds are not great that it will work for you.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""fomer student"" ---Hyde seems to survive or thrive on this model however. None of this would bother me except for the fact that families that need some sort of help end up there and get nothing that they can use. You could argue that number is around 40%, but I think it is higher. I never dropped out but as my mother said before she died, "Hyde did nothing for you."
I say this as a warning if you are reading this and think you should send your child there. You should have clear expectations of what your child's needs are. ...Don't subcontract the job of parenting to some one with a one size fits all solution that may not fit your child or worse, damage your child. Hyde does not work for everyone. Based on the numbers of the attrition rate, odds are not great that it will work for you.
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And it is not just that some families who need help, and who do not receive it, that one worries about. Some very serious damage has been done to some kids.
--- Quote from: ""Maia Szalavitz"" ---What makes these "tough love" programs uniquely dangerous is that they are led by amateurs who believe they are experts. No qualifications are needed to own, operate, or work with kids at such programs -- although they often employ some professionals, their influence is subsumed by the organizations' strict rules and regimes. And while they claim to treat serious mental illnesses and addictions, many of their tactics conflict with proven therapies for these conditions and they often don't even have the expertise to diagnose them properly.
The programs also tend to endorse an outdated view of teen problems in which confronting, humiliating, and degrading adolescents is seen as beneficial -- while kindness is stigmatized as "codependence" or "enabling." As leading addictions-outcomes researcher William Miller, Ph.D. put it in a recent paper, "Four decades of research have failed to yield a single clinical trial showing efficacy of confrontational counseling, whereas a number have documented harmful effects, particularly for more vulnerable populations."
Maia Szalavitz in Getting Tough on Private Prisons for Teens
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