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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2007, 02:12:27 PM »
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Has Hyde ever admitted to any failures or wrongdoing publically or privately?


Faculty, yes; headmaster, no.

Listening to faculty discuss their failures was part of the everyday routine at Hyde. The idea, I guess, was to encourage students and parents to do the same. Pretty soon everyone was highly conscious of his own and others" failings, weaknesses, humility, and unworthiness.

Only the headmaster was exempt from this requirement. Accordingly, the group deferred to his judgment. I guess that's why Legg led the school in a few public beheadings of faculty who did not in his opinion sufficiently abject themselves. His authority was challenged.

Another example of how people are controlled.
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2007, 04:27:28 PM »
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Has Hyde ever admitted to any failures or wrongdoing publically or privately?

As far as institutional policies and communiques go, not that I know of. The closest they've come, re. the physical extremes and humiliations that some of the students were subjected to in the 70's, was to say something along the lines of "we no longer employ those methods." Of course, what made those methods so abusive wasn't so much the 216 cubic feet of soil manipulated, or whatever else was involved, as much as it was the social excoriation that accompanied it, not to mention the utter unfairness of how they played favorites and passed down judgment based on their voodoo character nonsense. And that has not changed. Not one bit.

There has never been any admission of the substandard education that we received there. How utterly sub par the academics are, and how so many kids complain of being lost at sea when they first get to college. "Education for life." Right, it certainly isn't for college, that's for sure. (But it sure as hell isn't for life, either. Just what exactly is it for?).

There has never been any acknowledgment of culpability in their creation of conditions ripe for all the sexual predation that has gone on, and probably still goes on, let alone some semblance of apology for the transgressions themselves.

I seem to recall that Joe Gauld did have to write a letter of apology to Hyde-DC for an incident of his emotional excess a few years ago. I consider it noteworthy that this was one of the public charter schools; one has hope that these people still have one foot planted in reality, however tenuous that might be at this point.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2007, 04:48:26 PM »
In the interest of being fair and balanced (like faux news) I have heard a Head of School nee Headmaster admit that "mistakes where made in the past."

  As far as the ditch digging etc etc  I don't think that was what the mistakes were.  I think the mistakes were promising parents that they could deal with kids that they did not have the slightest clue about.   I really got a kick out of the article in the Portland Press Herald were Joe pontificates on the VT shootings and how he knows the answer.  Damnation, if Phil B didn't almost kill 20 odd kids in the Mansion.  There are somethings you can't fix with attitude adjustment, fresh air, exercise and a crazy coot yelling at you.
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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2007, 09:09:52 PM »
Portland Press Herald  |  Maine Sunday Telegram
MAINE VOICES
How to make our schools safe
Hyde Schools offer three initiatives for students to be responsible
for the best in each other.


Joseph W. Gauld
July 6, 2007

Our deeply sad, but ultimately impotent, response to the Virginia Tech massacre reveals our American conscience is still asleep.

Like the Columbine tragedy, we routinely mourned the dead, discussed the whys and what ifs, made minor reforms, and then -- returned to business as usual.

What's next? Will some embittered student soon figure out a way to blow up his school while it is in session?

This is a time to act on conscience and finally address the bitterness, hostility and community detachment that created these tragedies. We must acknowledge the hatred was instigated and nurtured by our schools. But hatred is a learned behavior, and whatever is learned can be unlearned.

Our schools place us all in competition with each other. Given the rapid growth we are experiencing, this greatly exacerbates our incomplete sense of identity and worth.

This, in turn, motivates our "pecking order" instincts to put others down in order to feel better about ourselves. Thus our schools today are riddled with bullying, cliques.

This tyranny of conformity undermines our confidence in the uniqueness of our potentials and deeper selves. Examine our school cultures today: Under the No Child Left Behind Act, most of our schools are rated unsatisfactory, with the majority of students rated either "basic" or "below basic." Negativity abounds. Examine the present mission of our schools: 100 percent of American students rated "proficient" by year 2014. Never mind their uniqueness, values, character and humanness. What we seek is a bunch of robots who can perform proficiently.

We created a land whose laws revere individuality. But we unwittingly created a competitive educational system that does not. So, during this most critical human growth period, our system not only discourages students from helping and learning from each other, it allows their doubts about themselves and their worst instincts to bully others.

The depth of resentments and hatred generated inevitably spawn school tragedies like Columbine and Virginia Tech.

As a teacher, I experienced a crisis of conscience in 1962 when I realized I was part of this educational system that fails to help American kids discover their deeper selves and succeed in life beyond proficiency tests.

Since then, I have founded a network of both private and public Hyde Schools devoted to developing the character and unique potential of its students.

Our K-12 Hyde Leadership Public Charter School in Washington, D.C., has no metal detectors. The students like this safe environment and know that keeping it requires their "Brother's Keeper" commitment to the best in each other.

There is no bullying or "we-they" attitudes. No one experiences community isolation like that of the Virginia Tech shooter because students daily intrude on each other's lives with concern.

Our brand new Hyde Leadership Charter School in New York City recently disciplined a group of sixth graders that attempted to create a gang. But once they learn to appreciate Brother's Keeper, they will grow beyond these pecking-order attitudes.

After 41 years of work, this would be Hyde's contribution to American education:

    1. Primarily evaluate student growth in terms of one's own best, not in comparison with others. The uniqueness of human development first requires encouragement -- certainly before competition.
    2. Primarily focus on developing the character and unique potential of each student. This respects, values and motivates each one in a positive direction.
    3. Require all students, particularly teenagers, to be each other's Brother's Keeper, to become responsible for the best in each other.

They can be powerful teachers, and their concern is the antidote for bitterness, anger, detachment and hostility.

These three initiatives will not only replace student alienation with life-long friendships; they will produce a generation to lead America into becoming the nation it was meant to be.


ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Joseph W. Gauld of Bath is the founder of Hyde Schools.
• Special to the Press Herald


Copyright © 2007 Blethen Maine Newspapers
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« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2007, 01:45:56 AM »
As if Hyde doesn't create bullying cliques, alienated individuals, and a we-they attitude! As if Hyde doesn't have a pecking order of its own! As if Hyde didn't have it own mass murderer!

Only, Hyde's mass murderer did not direct his bitterness and alienation at his peers. He sprinkled gasoline around the wood rooms and well-stocked library of the Mansion, the symbol of Hyde School, and set it ablaze in the middle of the night. Hyde School was his victim, not the students sleeping upstairs who used the Mansion as a dorm.

Hyde's mass murderer had been at Hyde only one summer and could still separate Hyde School from his peers who were his fellow victims. It would have been much harder for him to make this distinction, however, if he had waited until the regular year and seen more and more of his peers transformed in brother's keepers. Then his bitterness and alienation might have sought a more human target, and his MO might have been nearer to that of the Virginia Tech mass murderer.
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« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2007, 02:46:00 AM »
There were two of them, from what I recall. I.e., two kids who set the fire together on the first floor of the mansion, in the middle of the night, in the summer of 1975.

I did not have time to comment earlier. Yeah, I felt pretty exasperated reading Joe's words as he pontificated about the "'pecking order' instincts," the "bullying," the "we-they attitudes," and the "bitterness, anger, detachment and hostility" he ascribes to other schools... when Hyde School appears to be even more rife with these than what the regular populace cultivates!

    We created a land whose laws revere individuality. But we unwittingly created a competitive educational system that does not. So, during this most critical human growth period, our system not only discourages students from helping and learning from each other, it allows their doubts about themselves and their worst instincts to bully others.[/list]

    Maybe so. But Joe's system epitomizes the worst of it, not something different.  Joe's system is the height of "this tyranny of conformity." His three initiatives are a joke. I'm surprised someone hasn't spit in his face already.

    He must have Google alerts for "school tragedy" or similar, since every time something happens, e.g., Columbine, the CEDU/Brown Schools' closing, Virginia Tech, etc., he comes right out with another self-righteous treatise on what was wrong with respective circumstances and how Hyde School does it differently and better. When will people get tired of reading this shit? (Like anyone has a choice...)

      What's next? Will some embittered student soon figure out a way to blow up his school while it is in session?[/list]

      Is he senile and forgetting about 1975? Or is he just throwing this in our face one more time, laughing all the way to the bank?
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      « Reply #51 on: September 27, 2007, 10:22:37 AM »
      Hyde is really luck that a VT style shooting has not occurred with some of the nut job kids it takes on.
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      « Reply #52 on: September 27, 2007, 04:15:27 PM »
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      Hyde is really luck that a VT style shooting has not occurred with some of the nut job kids it takes on.

      ...or some of the nut job faculty it employs, by Jove! :rofl:
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      « Reply #53 on: September 28, 2007, 06:33:43 PM »
      I don't know, maybe it's just me, but what if the "obstacle" is that the kid, himself, really just needs glasses!? So that he can avoid running into things?

      More lame, lame, lame...

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      Priority #6
      Allow Obstacles To Become Opportunities

      How do we view obstacles? We can get caught up in trying to "fix" problems instead of seeing the potential possibilities for growth. If we view obstacles with this different set of "glasses," we liberate our children from avoiding obstacles. We need to trust that our children are on an unpredictable journey-one that we cannot and should not try to control even when they hit a rough spot. To interfere with that journey, obstacles and all, we take away their opportunity t o work through it. We need to say to our children more often, "Sounds like you are struggling, what are you going to do about it?"
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      « Reply #54 on: September 29, 2007, 06:14:42 AM »
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      We can get caught up in trying to "fix" problems instead of seeing the potential possibilities for growth.

      Kind of dishonest of Hyde to artificially create more of these "potential possibilities for growth" dont you think?  So they think they are doing us a favor by fucking us over?
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      « Reply #55 on: October 01, 2007, 02:36:00 AM »
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      I don't know, maybe it's just me, but what if the "obstacle" is that the kid, himself, really just needs glasses!?  So that he can avoid running into things?

      More lame, lame, lame...

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      Priority #6
      Allow Obstacles To Become Opportunities

      How do we view obstacles? We can get caught up in trying to "fix" problems instead of seeing the potential possibilities for growth. If we view obstacles with this different set of "glasses," we liberate our children from avoiding obstacles. We need to trust that our children are on an unpredictable journey-one that we cannot and should not try to control even when they hit a rough spot. To interfere with that journey, obstacles and all, we take away their opportunity t o work through it. We need to say to our children more often, "Sounds like you are struggling, what are you going to do about it?"

      Priority #6 Allowing Obstacles to Become Opportunities?
      Do these "opportunities" also include the faculty taking sexual advantage of the students?
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      « Reply #56 on: October 01, 2007, 01:34:03 PM »
      Well, like someone said when they asked Malcolm Gauld how he would react if this happened to his daughter...  

      Quote from: ""Hydemom""
      When confronting Malcolm by phone and asking how he would like it if it had happened to his daughter, his response was, "my daughter could handle it."

      I suppose this is due to the superior upbringing of the Gauld children.  

      And I suppose that the "fault" of what happens to other children re. sexual predation at Hyde comes right back to the kid, for not having "handled it" properly, and to the parents, for not having taught their kids how to "handle it."

      Yet, when are you supposed to learn these things? During your teenage years, right?  

      And during what time of their lives are kids at Hyde? Their teenage years, right?  

      What does Hyde tell parents re. bringing up their kids during their time at Hyde?

        Hyde creates a very intensive growth cocoon focused on character development that seeks to help students: 1) transcend their animal instincts; 2) combat negative family dynamics, and 3) create a new youth culture committed to each student's best.

        Since kids--and their parents--have been far more immersed in this counter growth culture than has Hyde, Hyde can be far more objective about how to best address the true growth needs of kids. And given the limited time available, Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a student's true best, and further we consider our commitment to help each student realize that best a sacred trust.


        -- Joseph Gauld, 2002
        http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 46#p251246[/list]

        There's a serious logical disconnect going on here. Hyde can't have it both ways.
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        « Reply #57 on: October 01, 2007, 01:46:05 PM »
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        Well, like someone said when they asked Malcolm Gauld how he would react if this happened to his daughter...  
        Quote from: ""Hydemom""
        When confronting Malcolm by phone and asking how he would like it if it had happened to his daughter, his response was, "my daughter could handle it."
        I suppose this is due to the superior upbringing of the Gauld children.  

        And I suppose that the "fault" of what happens to other children re. sexual predation at Hyde comes right back to the kid, for not having "handled it" properly, and to the parents, for not having taught their kids how to "handle it."

        Yet, when are you supposed to learn these things?  During your teenage years, right?  

        And during what time of their lives are kids at Hyde?  Their teenage years, right?  

        What does Hyde tell parents re. bringing up their kids during their time at Hyde?
          Hyde creates a very intensive growth cocoon focused on character development that seeks to help students: 1) transcend their animal instincts; 2) combat negative family dynamics, and 3) create a new youth culture committed to each student's best.

          Since kids--and their parents--have been far more immersed in this counter growth culture than has Hyde, Hyde can be far more objective about how to best address the true growth needs of kids. And given the limited time available, Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a student's true best, and further we consider our commitment to help each student realize that best a sacred trust.

          -- Joseph Gauld, 2002
          http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17336&start=14[/list]
          There's a serious logical disconnect going on here.  Hyde can't have it both ways.



             God's holy trousers!  You can't find logic in the way Hyde is put together.  The whole shootin' match is just the instincts and twitches from old Joe's limbic system with post facto rationalization window dressin'.  I was tryin' to clean that hog pen full 'a shit when they canned me.

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          « Reply #58 on: October 01, 2007, 02:21:23 PM »
          Oh, RIGHT, you ol' long-legged fishhead!!!  Like you never let your animal instincts get the better of you, ah?  Oh, nnnoooo... you're way too cool fer that!  ...NOT!!!

          You made pah-lenty of mistakes in your day, my old friend.  You've just got some selective memory going on here.  We were a TEAM, at one point, you and me... Like when we sucker punched that dumbass Larry Willworth, or what was his name?  Poor guy, I almost felt sorry for him, but it was time to rev up some school spirit, and he was the most expendable, heh heh.  

          Them were the days... You can't tell me you didn't get a rush out of that one, ah?  Har har har!!!

          Thinking of Hawaii,
          Joseph "animal-instincts" Gauld, The Educator
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          « Reply #59 on: October 01, 2007, 02:56:59 PM »
          Well, you got me there.  I would have to fess up lovin' them old community witch burnins.  Kinda reminded me of the days back in Texas when .....

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