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The 10 Priorities (from Biggest Job)

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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---This #8 is just a false dichotomy cobbled up by Hyde to rationalize the fact that it accepts nut case kids and under performers at 40k per pop.
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Psychological Offender Profile (POP).

Ursus:
Ha ha!  Just when has anyone in their right mind ever pictured Hyde feigning any semblance of "humility?"  Now that is a "challenge" they will never rise to, mark my words...

Sloppy formatting too:  last bullet is not one of "these questions," but the closing sentence.

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Priority #9
[li]When was the last time you really asked for help from someone?[/li]
[li]When was the last time you asked for help from your child?[/li]
[li]If we can become better at this, our children will trust us at a deeper level and will use us more as a resource.[/li][/list]

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""The Gaulds"" ---Priority #9
[li]When was the last time you really asked for help from someone?[/li]
[li]When was the last time you asked for help from your child?[/li]
[li]If we can become better at this, our children will trust us at a deeper level and will use us more as a resource.[/li][/list]
--- End quote ---


It is reasonable for a professional (doctor, lawyer, etc.) not to seek advice from a client. Hence, it is reasonable for the Hyde professionals not to seek advice from parents, students, and alumni. But who are the Hyde professionals? To quote Malcolm Gauld, at Hyde students have an opportunity to "learn from real teachers and coaches who provide personal advice and counsel on the side, NOT real therapists who teach on the side" (Malcolm's Blog, 10/1/2007). In other words, the Hyde professionals are educators who should not be held to professional psychological standards.

First, are there "real teachers and coaches" at Hyde? It was the case when I was there that real coaches were teachers and real teachers were coaches. From what I gather, that is still the case. What are the professional teaching standards set by The Association of Boarding Schools (TABS) of which Hyde is a member, and does Hyde meet them? This is easy to check. Hyde would lose accreditation if it were found to be in violation of TABS standards.    

Second, Hyde professionals are not therapists, but concerned teachers who give "personal advice and counsel on the side." There are several flaws in Malcolm's statement. First, "on the side" suggests that giving advice is a marginal activity, whereas it is the central activity at Hyde: students are subjected to a constant barrage of advice during their daily activities. Malcolm's statement suggests that advice is given in private, whereas it is almost always given in a public forum. Since it is common knowledge, it is intended to influence the way our peers treat us. Malcolm's statement suggests that students and parents receive advice, whereas they are also obligated to give it, however uncomfortable and unqualified they feel. Malcolm's statement suggests that advice is solicited by students and parents, whereas this is rarely the case. Malcolm's statement suggests that advice is given by teachers who are concerned friend, whereas it is often delivered in the most brutal, humiliating, and even traumatic manner imaginable. Finally, one is free to follow advice at will, whereas advice at Hyde is on the order of a command: failure to heed it leads to punitive actions. In light of the peculiarities of this "advice given on the side," shouldn't it be dispensed by certified therapists, or at least regulated by a professional psychological body?

Jesus H Christ:
Can you really make money, handing out advice like this?  Please let me help.  I have two kids in college and need cash.  Please help. BTW I have asked my kids to help with the bills by working.

  JoeSoulBro
(I walk the course when I play too)

Ursus:
Good show!  Excellent questions and points!   I completely agree with the previous poster's comments re. the ghastly misrepresentation that is implied as well as flat out stated in Malcolm's recent blog re. teaching vs. therapy.  Care to provide the full text?

Let's get even simpler:  teaching qualifications and academic material, since this is the ostensible focus of a "school," and certainly the coattails Hyde rides as to any accreditation going on there...

I can remember taking an English class which essentially consisted of reading several books and then discussing these in class.  There were perhaps a half dozen books over the course of the semester.  Perhaps we also needed to write a paper or two on one of them, or comparing two of them, at the very end.  At least one of the books was a paperback pulp bestseller, salacious enough to make one embarrassed to be caught reading it in public, but maybe that's just my take on it.  I think one of my female classmates was responsible for the selection of that one.  Not exactly high brow literature, although some of the other books were okay/good choices.  

The course was taught by a coach.  Nice enough man, but definitely nowhere near his field of choice, pun intended, ha ha.  I felt like I had dropped backwards at least two years as far as my academic progress was concerned.  The class discussions were painful.  Insight and comparison in literature were not rewarded; historical context -- operating at the time of the authorship -- was never provided; holding oneself to grammatical standards in one's writing was never noticed nor judged.  Rather... it was one big exercise in finding examples of Hyde's teaching in other contexts.  Or, applying our great Hyde facilities for judgment, as in "How might Hyde have done it differently?"  To be fair, I don't think the coach's heart was in it.  I think he really just didn't know what else to do, and this focus was "suggested" to him by someone higher up.

Before I attended Hyde, I took Geometry.  Yet, to my recall, there was never such an "advanced" or "specialized" course ever offered at Hyde the several years that I was there.  Has that changed?  Perhaps it gets assimilated into "math."

Who accredits Hyde these days?

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