Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
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TheWho:
--- Quote --- Forced OR coerced. ASR uses the same behavior modification techniques that Straight used. THAT is brainwashing.
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No forced or coerced. She had a therapist that reported back to her therapist at home. It really worked out well
--- Quote --- How has your relationship been since she's gotten out? For once in your time here, give me an honest answer.
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I believe I have always been consistent with my answer. Our relationship has been very good, we communicate much better with each other, spend as much time with each other as we can, weekends mostly.
--- Quote ---It took a damn long time for people to hear us. Cops took us back if we ran. Judges ordered us to it. Hell, Nancy Reagan brought Princess Di to see all the good little Straightlings. That's why these places continue to exist.
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If you run at ASR, there are no fences and a counselor will walk along side you to keep you safe, no restraints or holding. If you run again you get kicked out just like any other school. I imagine the police would call the parents or bring them back to the school if they are underage, I don’t remember that occurring.
--- Quote --- I'm not understanding your point here.
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My point was that from what I read about others experiences, ASR was very different from those other schools, the kids are more engaged and had more freedoms, allowed to talk to each other, have fun, grow and thrive.
Many people here describe situations much different than that at the places they attended.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---No forced or coerced. She had a therapist that reported back to her therapist at home. It really worked out well
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So it was completely, 100% her idea and choice to go and stay there?
--- Quote --- I believe I have always been consistent with my answer. Our relationship has been very good, we communicate much better with each other, spend as much time with each other as we can, weekends mostly.
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That really tells me nothing.
--- Quote ---My point was that from what I read about others experiences, ASR was very different from those other schools, the kids are more engaged and had more freedoms, allowed to talk to each other, have fun, grow and thrive.
Many people here describe situations much different than that at the places they attended.
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Not really. Its just easier for you to believe that.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---So it was completely, 100% her idea and choice to go and stay there?
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It took her awhile to buy into it and get use to her new therapist. She didn’t want to be there at first but saw that it was working for her, she was taken off some of her meds, which she liked. Like I said she had an advocate on the outside (her therapist at home) who was kept in contact also.
She met new friends who she still stays in contact with etc.
--- Quote --- That really tells me nothing.
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Sorry, not sure what to say…we go to dinner, share laughs about the past and about what is going on in our lives..etc.
--- Quote --- Not really. Its just easier for you to believe that.
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No its not just what I believe…read some of the post here and tell me how many kids say they had fun or talk about movie night or trips into town..they don’t….thats what I mean by ASR was/is different. Of course there will be kids who didn’t do as well, hell we had kids in my highschool that wanted to burn it down with the teachers in it, so I understand that not every situation is healthy for everyone or works for everyone. That’s why they have individualized plans for each child.
Anonymous:
Anne Bonney:
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It took her awhile to buy into it
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THAT is coercion.
--- Quote --- Sorry, not sure what to say…we go to dinner, share laughs about the past and about what is going on in our lives..etc.
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Didn't you say there was a time period that she wouldn't speak to you after getting out? I can't swear to it, but I thought you posted about that.
--- Quote ---No its not just what I believe…read some of the post here and tell me how many kids say they had fun or talk about movie night or trips into town..they don’t….thats what I mean by ASR was/is different.
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Then YOU are the one who hasn't been reading. Its not really different at all. Especially given the fact that they use the therapeutic community approach that comes from Synanon.
--- Quote --- Of course there will be kids who didn’t do as well, hell we had kids in my highschool that wanted to burn it down with the teachers in it, so I understand that not every situation is healthy for everyone or works for everyone. That’s why they have individualized plans for each child.
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Well, they like to say that and some may actually believe that but its not really true. You think you have an understanding because you have a child who went through, but you don't. My parents have no clue what really went on behind closed doors. For years they deluded themselves into thinking that they did, that it was what they 'had to do', that it really did 'save my life'. They found out differently once they removed the 'rose colored glasses'.
::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
I've always wanted to turn it around and use one of their stupid cliches against them. (Not necessarily you Who. Programs in general)
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