Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
More Change at Excel
TheWho:
I have never been a big fan of those scare tactics. Our local police advocate having the kids arrested and thrown in jail for a day to teach the kids a lesson (minus the vasoline, I am sure). They push this on parents and high schools but I think we will start to see this stop. The sheriff had no choice but to fire his deputy for doing this regardless of what state they are in or school he was associated with.
It is good to see these TBS’ moving away from the tough love and boot camp mentality. I think we will start seeing more of this in the future:
A little piece from their new improvements:
Our target student population and profile must include substance abuse as a primary issue. We do not take youth with conduct disorders and we typically prefer to have a full range of testing prior to acceptance.
“Our purpose: program and staff are all focused on ensuring our students learn to make the right choices, develop and maintain healthy relationships, and learn the skills for a successful life in recovery. We are doing this without coercive techniques and in a transparent and family engaging way.”
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Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---I have never been a big fan of those scare tactics. Our local police advocate having the kids arrested and thrown in jail for a day to teach the kids a lesson (minus the vasoline, I am sure). They push this on parents and high schools but I think we will start to see this stop. The sheriff had no choice but to fire his deputy for doing this regardless of what state they are in or school he was associated with.
It is good to see these TBS’ moving away from the tough love and boot camp mentality. I think we will start seeing more of this in the future:
A little piece from their new improvements:
Our target student population and profile must include substance abuse as a primary issue. We do not take youth with conduct disorders and we typically prefer to have a full range of testing prior to acceptance.
“Our purpose: program and staff are all focused on ensuring our students learn to make the right choices, develop and maintain healthy relationships, and learn the skills for a successful life in recovery. We are doing this without coercive techniques and in a transparent and family engaging way.”
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you fuckin program shill. try all you like but you can't turn a pile of shit into a rose. which program did the "cuff and vasoline" dude run at excell? how long was he employed there?
cuffs and vasoline aren't coercive? did they engage the family in deciding on this course of "therapy"? just how trans-parent is excel?
TheWho:
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you fuckin program shill. try all you like but you can't turn a pile of shit into a rose. which program did the "cuff and vasoline" dude run at excell? how long was he employed there?
cuffs and vasoline aren't coercive? did they engage the family in deciding on this course of "therapy"? just how trans-parent is excel?
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I think you misread what I wrote. I do not advocate this type of procedure, personally.
Here is what I stated:
I have never been a big fan of those scare tactics. Our local police advocate having the kids arrested and thrown in jail for a day to teach the kids a lesson (minus the Vaseline, I am sure). They push this on parents and high schools but I think we will start to see this stop. The sheriff had no choice but to fire his deputy for doing this regardless of what state they are in or school he was associated with.
The sheriff’s deputy was the one who took the kid into the jail……. But we can point fingers all night… regardless of whether or not he was on duty, he was a law enforcement officer and he needs to take responsibility. I don’t think we know if the parents were aware of this, my guess is that they probably were if it was a routine procedure. If the deputy decided to take it upon himself to try something different than that is a different story. I do know that police across the country do this to scare teens, this is not unique to any one type of school. It is unfortunate that the deputy allowed the inmates to take control the way they did.
What we need to recognize, also, is that the school took this as a very serious event and took immediate action to eliminate from this happening again.
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Anonymous:
If the parents use the web at all they should know that a jail visit was a mandatory part of Excel Academy.
On HEAL-online a survivor statement from a girl, who attended the facility back in 2000 mentions the visits to the jail.
SURVIVOR TESTIMONIAL: EXCEL ACADEMY - Survivor Account #1
So it was old news. There is no excuse of behalf of the parents.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Wiki Researcher" ---If the parents use the web at all they should know that a jail visit was a mandatory part of Excel Academy.
On HEAL-online a survivor statement from a girl, who attended the facility back in 2000 mentions the visits to the jail.
SURVIVOR TESTIMONIAL: EXCEL ACADEMY - Survivor Account #1
So it was old news. There is no excuse of behalf of the parents.
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Thanks Wiki, for finding that, this is what I thought. I am sure the parents are made aware of the various procedures that the school uses and you are right this is an old tactic and its use also goes way back before programs existed. The parents were not at fault (I agree) it was poor judgment on the part of the towns deputy and I believe being terminated was the right thing for the sheriff to do.
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