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Deborah:
I fail to understand how pictures of nude bodies have been classified as free "speech". They're pictures, not speech. And as far as I can tell, are used to offend rather than debate or educate.

Anonymous:

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet"" ---Ok, I haven't got time now to find the Gook's words of wisdom on user blocking. Wish I did. But as to the porn content, I don't usually edit other people's posts unless they request it or at least give their ok. We don't make editorial decisions we just keep the site up so that each user can make their own calls. There's a whole lot of content on here that I find to be far more offensive than pornographic images. Sometimes I argue against it when I have the itch and the time but I don't make any attempt to control the content. And trying to ban someone is an exercise in futility even if it were a worthwhile endeavour, which I do not believe it to be. Generally, when the opposition comes out with porn, spam, ad hominem attacks then you know you've won the argument.
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Well, I think you've lost one of the major benefits of this forum. And at least one of your admins is abusing their privileges, and bumping logged in users off, which undermines any credibility you might have had in a big way.  You really should think about at least temporarily blocking IP's for those who post porn or continually ruin the threads in the name of free speech.

More than one kid who is in a program today would be safely home with their parents instead, had their parents been able to stomach this site, and actually acquire some useful information. And some kids who are dead might be alive. At best this forum has been reduced to not so funny entertainment for idiots at this point, and will never be taken seriously by any prospective parent, "real" survivors, investigator, journalist, or anyone else who has a sincere interest in exposing the abuse in the teen treatment industry. Congratulations.

My user account was compromised, so I no longer log in to post. I attempted to get information on the industry from this forum in an effort to expose what happened to my son. I sincerely doubt many parents would stick around for more than 5 minutes. So you survivors who get off on others' pain and abuse, have at it. More kids will suffer because of you, providing yet more entertainment for your sick minds. For those who post useful information and discussion about real issues, I suggest you find a real forum. Disagreement, discussion, and freedom to state one's opinions are great.  This version of free speech really sucks.

And if I were you, I'd spend a teeny amount of time keeping tabs on some of your "admins"..... But oh wait... then you'd be behaving like a .... parent.....

PB Mom

Anonymous:
Most "free speech" public forums do have a protocol. It is there to safeguard everyone's right to free speech (which isn't an issue on an Internet site) but also to control hecklers (which is an issue here) and to keep the discussion relevant (which is also an issue). Even if the protocol is relaxed, it is impossible to justify the posting of porn on a Troubled Teen Forum.

I'm not being prudish. What set me off is a video multiply posted on the Hyde Schools threads of two girls eating each other's shit and puking into each other's mouth. (I didn't actually watch it; I was careful to Google it first. But why should every video and photo on Fornits have to go through airport security?) If I wanted that kind of entertainment, I'd reread the Marquis de Sade, or go to the appropriate Web sites. But it has no place here on a Troubled Teen Forum. And since I've been provoked, I'd say that's true of all porn, not just the above described.

The point is that you are doing more harm than good to Fornits by not regulating it. Of all people, you Fornits people should be able to understand the need for regulation.

TheWho:
I think this is an important issue and brings to light some good points.  There is really no way to effectively ban someone (as Ginger has pointed out).  But if a persons sole purpose is to disrupt the forum by posting porn then that point of origin can be shut off via his I.P.  They can always get another I.P. but it may not be worth it to the person to continually get a new I.P. just for the fun of posting a few photos.

In the case of someone like Niles they may be able to contact him privately and try to explain how harmful these postings are to present and potential parents who may be viewing.  This could directly affect whether or not a child gets placed into a program or gets placed into the proper program.

I have approached Niles myself a while back and I don’t think he truly understands the effect (or health) of his hate sites, porn and anti-Semitic has on the average reader and I found him to be a bit immature, which could account for his lack of understanding of others.  But maybe someone who knows him better (or is closer to his age) could speak to him.

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