As I said, I think there are other sites that suit that purpose. Fornits fills a very special niche that I don't want to lose. It's the ONLY site that allows complete freedom of speech. That means that we have to put up with material that may be offensive to us. That's what I meant about the most vile speech being the most important to protect.
As always, that's just MHO. If you're really that bothered by it, take it up with Ginger, but how many times have we gone round and round about this?
Otoh, BuzzKill could argue that her request for people to stop posting racial shit would fall under freedom of speech as well, which of course it does. Of course, you (or I, or anyone) could then choose to heed or ignore that advice depending on our inclination...
Precisely,
Last thing I'd suggest anyone do is gripe to Ginger about "offensive" material on Fornits! She has always been very clear: She will not moderate or in any way censer these forums.
I'm simply suggesting that if you value these forums (and its clear you do) then you might want to treat them that way. You have a great privilege here, not afforded on any other forum - but does that mean you have to abuse it to the extent that some do?
And what is wrong with keeping some of the more extreme stuff on the other forums I mentioned?
Some point out that this dark "humor" might actually cause strangers to hang around to learn more - sure - I guess in some cases it does. But in a lot of cases it doesn't. I guess you might argue good riddance then - but I would argue why push people away?
About the anti-Semitism and our Jewish guest saying they have enjoyed this thread's over reaction to their own poke at a fellow supposed Jew. . .
I personally was not upset all that much with your remark; tho with out knowing this is one Jew pointing to another, and saying "bad Jew", it can be taken as anti-Semitic. But what is in this thread, is nothing like what can be found in others, and in some cases it is very offensive. (which might explain the hyper-sensitivity found here) At times, here of late, a line has been crossed from poor taste, to grossly offensive. That is primarily what I wish folks would refrain from. It serves no purpose. It isn't funny and it makes no point and it has nothing to do with the issues at hand.
As for the vulgarity - I know some of you guys just think its hilarious - and I have to admit on occasion it is. But there again - sometimes a line is crossed and it is no longer funny. I know some will argue then don't read it or look at it. . . I personally do try not to - but in a case like this - on a forum I do want to read and post on - I often feel ambushed. I know I am not alone in this, b/c others have complained to me about it.
Again, just to be clear - I am not suggestion the forum be policed. I am asking that people think about what their posting - and make an effort to police themselves. Its a suggestion - a request - not an order. I am really not so egotistical that I think anyone will do what I say, b/c I said it.
As for not wanting to loose these fori - Again - if you value them, you should treat them as valuable. I value them too - and I fear we could loose them one day, if we abuse the privilege to much. Wimpy hosting companies are not the only threat.
