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« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2007, 09:37:03 AM »
Quote from: ""Scarlett Chiclet""
If anybody wants to help there are a few things that we need.

We need a good consult on banner advertising and ad brokers.
We need individual advertisers who could benefit from linking their name to this somewhat controversial website.
We need help countering Sue's manipulation of the search engines.
We need links and references on sites like Fark, Encyclopedia Dramatica or any other site which you may frequent. (a reference in your signature is a good way to effortlessly give a little promo)

We need ideas.
Money's nice too, but as of yet I can't say exactly how it will be spent. The overall objective is to make Fornits.com a self sustaining net publication similar in structure to FARK or Something Awful or Huffington Post (that's vague, I know, but there is a common thread in there somewhere we just have to further define it)


Ginger, have you ever looked into the http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/hostin ... _tools.htm

Hell, you might even try taking a stab at an OSI grant.

Some ideas anyway.
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« Reply #61 on: August 10, 2007, 10:29:28 AM »
Holy crap! Now that's a turn around. I used to be very active w/ Mapinc. When I started Fornits, they sort of refused to help because they'd gotten on the 'treatment not incarceration' bandwaggon. I guess they've had a change of heart. I should talk to them. Thanks!
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« Reply #62 on: August 10, 2007, 10:34:30 AM »
I think you misunderstand. I just did a quick check. They still say forced treatment like it's a good thing. One example:

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n930/a06.html?210

I don't want to go to war with them, though. They're basically on the right track and do a whole lot of good. I'm just waiting for them to finally come around and recognize their error. Not holding out much hope anymore, though. I know where their money comes from, much of it anyway and the primary big buck supporters are invested in treatment and insurance.
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« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2007, 11:01:09 AM »
Well that's just a newspaper article. I didn't see anything that says it's representative of their views. But I really don't know. I just figured it was up their ally, especially after seeing Trebach's site listed on their list of clients. http://www.drugpolicycentral.com/hosting/clients.htm
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« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2007, 11:08:36 AM »
No, it was a published letter to an editor. Robert Sharpe, I think was the author. Last I checked, Arnie had sort of parted ways with Drug Policy Foundation. They even changed their name to Drug Policy Alliance.

But dig this gem from the topic next door.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=276188#276188

This is pretty much all that MAPinc does, except that they have it exceptionally well organized and it's got a whole lot of momentum.

We could set aside a space where we could aggregate articles and other media relating to our issues so that anyone who wants to can easily browse the news of the day relating to our issues and easily respond. This is what I've tried several times to launch as the Cassandra Project.

If there's interest enough, and I think there is at this point, then maybe it's time to trot old lady (Cassandra) out again and see if she'll dance?

What do yenz all think are the best ways to organize such an effort?
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Sue Scheff & PURE Challenged by Fornits and Ginger Warbi
« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2007, 09:03:46 AM »
An Engaging Game of I-Chess:
Who is Ginger Warbis of Fornits.com?

Written by: Paula Reeves
www.paulareeves.com

August 10, 2007

The “Internet Wolverine” responds to threats by Sue Scheff, her company PURE (Parents Universal Resource Experts), and others in the private “teen help” business:

“Hit me with your best shot, cowards! At the end of the day, I can take it. You can’t.” -Ginger Warbis, August 2007-

Ginger Warbis, living somewhere in Virginia, is no ordinary woman. She began her controversial electronic publishing site at Fornits.com over five years ago. Flanked and protected, pro bono, by Attorney Philip Elberg, Warbis is fearless in her exposure of the burgeoning and dangerously unregulated industry called the “troubled teen” or “teen help” industry.

If you dare enter Ginger Warbis’ Web World, you are forewarned that it is not for the weak of heart. The posts are crude and nasty at times, but most hit to the heart of a uniquely American tragedy.

“Oh, the irony of it all,” Ginger Warbis exclaims in a recent post on her site as she writes under the pen name of “Scarlett Chiclet.” In the span of a few years, this angry advocate has transformed herself from a rough hewn virtual-vigilante to a witty, raunchy publicist who isn’t afraid of anyone, anywhere, anytime. Whether you like her or not, one cannot help but admire the tenacity of Ginger Warbis and her band of mischievous Internet crusaders.

Warbis’ arch-enemy at the moment is Sue Scheff, a self-proclaimed “resource expert,” who places children in programs, sometime unsafe ones, that pay Scheff substantial sums of money. According to bloggers, Scheff recently tried to shut down the Fornits.com site and silence Ms. Warbis’ prolific criticism of Scheff and others like Scheff.

In response, Warbis moved her Internet presence to Canada. The Fornits.com site is now spawning anti-Sue Scheff sites too numerous to track, such as www.sueschefftruth.com.

Why is Ginger Warbis so tenacious and tough? She characterizes herself as a “prisoner of war” who survived the now defunct Straight Program. As a child in the early 1980s, Warbis said she was held against her will for two years at Straight in Florida, deprived of a meaningful education, and forced to confess and engage in acts against her will.

Attorney Elberg, who defends Warbis’ right to speak, has won multi-million dollar settlements against those victimizing children in private programs. Elberg also criticizes Scheff and her practices of using her money to silence those who disagree with her.

In an apparent response to Sue Scheff’s attempt to take down Fornits.com, Ginger Warbis challenges:

“Sue me! I beg of you, bring this fight back into the public eye in any way you can. . . .”

With the help of Attorney Elberg, she won dismissal of a 2004 case that Sue Scheff, the wealthy heiress, and PURE, filed against Warbis for defamation and invasion of privacy.

Underscoring her determination, Warbis writes: “You spoiled yuppie scumbags think a civil suit or public embarrassment or the prospect of losing some of your precious stuff is too horrible to even think about. I'm made of stone . . . . tough, so far beyond the need for creature comforts and social acceptance. . . .”

It does not appear that Ginger Warbis will be folding Fornits.com anytime soon. In the meantime, Sue Scheff has hired a company to saturate the Internet with self-created positive comments and web sites about her and her company, in the hope of countering the mounting guerilla forces of Ginger Warbis and Fornits.com.

copyright 2007 Paula Reeves
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« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2007, 09:08:05 AM »
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote from: ""BuzzKill""
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No, she said she filed a report with BSO and the FBI about alleged death threats against her here.  As far as anyone can find out, nothing has been filed.
 
She also said that 20/20 was doing a story on her.  They've never heard of her.

Ahh - I see! Thanks a bunch. That make sense. But would a county office have records on a complaint to the FBI?

She claimed she contacted both.  Check the email (linked to in first post) as well as the hilarious attachments.  She seems to like my quotes quite a lot.  She even quoted Sandy!

 
Sue is obviously looking to defend herself.Attacking those who tell the truth is nothing new.Those who take the truth and manipulate it to serve their own purpose or illness is a staple of what I have seen Fornits become. Freedom is one thing. Accountability is another.
You reap what you sew.
I am certain that Sue will "pay" for her crimes against children. I have no doubt. I also have no doubt of her guilt.
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Another Blog Spot on Scheff
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« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2007, 11:40:25 AM »
Missed y'all for a few days there.
You guys REALLY rock -thx.

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« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2007, 03:10:26 PM »
But the stables of truth are diversifying...

Sue-Sue would have to nuke the internet to cover up the truth now!

http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/jharris.pdf
http://www.sueschefftruth.com
http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheff-pure-sued
http://www.nowpublic.com/sue-scheffs-undocumented-case
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... itstart=20
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/2 ... 267011.htm
http://suescheffvcareybock.blogspot.com/
http://www.netscape.com/tag/sue+scheff
http://sueschefftruth.com/?p=8
http://www.hugg.com/taxonomy/term/1155
http://www.xomba.com/who_is_sue_scheff
http://claimid.com/realsuescheff
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-orl ... NBMB0HBD6H
http://www.corank.com/tech/tag/Sue%20Scheff
http://family.netscape.com/story/2007/0 ... ff-lawsuit
http://www.stumbleupon.com/tag/sue-scheff
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... 1&catid=13
http://reddit.com/search?q=%22Sue+Scheff%22
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/new-orl ... NBMB0HBD6H
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2
http://www.care2.com/news/member/847797324/451087
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2
http://www.isaccorp.org/pressreleases/s ... ctory.html
http://politics.netscape.com/story/2007 ... -to-censor
http://www.digg.com/health/Nightmare_Ac ... Sue_Scheff
http://www.nowpublic.net/what-sue-schef ... elp-censor
http://www.xomba.com/tags/sue_scheff
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thr ... forum_id=2
http://bloggerproxy.info/proxy-11575.htm
http://www.isaccorp.org/pressreleases/s ... ctory.html
http://sueschefffornits.blogspot.com
http://www.digg.com/health/Nightmare_Ac ... Sue_Scheff
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Sue_S ... s_Horrific
http://reddit.com/info/2et1a/comments
http:// fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=276944&sid=3d85e55b5a87b8dc2d93278c7165f009

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2007 ... -to-censor
http://www.ziki.com/en/people/suescheffretort
http://www.cyroxos.net/articles/Sue.php
http://www.corank.com/tech/story/carey- ... Sue-Scheff
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« Reply #70 on: August 16, 2007, 05:39:11 PM »
They're not for you to sift through.  They're for clicking on and bumping up.
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« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2007, 06:27:40 PM »
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 They're for clicking on and bumping up.


What's this?
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« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2007, 06:58:23 PM »
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 They're for clicking on and bumping up.

What's this?


Gets the truth bumped up the google page count
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« Reply #73 on: August 18, 2007, 02:56:55 PM »
...idiot-speak[/i], please!

on account of...
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« Reply #74 on: August 18, 2007, 03:11:32 PM »
The more people click on those links (they have the real truth about Sue posted), the further up the Google search they'll show up.  Right now she's paid someone to spam it all up with bullshit lies about how wonderful she is.
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