Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Who Laments on How He'd Run HLA.... Aspen Style
Anonymous:
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--- Quote --- Why are you so very interested in HLA?
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The discussion caught my eye when I saw someone posting information from some girls wedding announcement and claiming that she wasn’t qualified to be a counselor at HLA. I didn’t know how the 2 connected and was curious of what the requirements were to be a counselor and/ or an addictions counselor. No one seemed to be able to tell me, all I got was people trying to run the subject off topic.
This sparked my interest as I am a parent to several children and from a parents point of view the information seemed to be one sided or tainted like it came from an ex-employee and not worthy to be used to base a decision. So I thought I could try to keep the discussion focused and on track and maybe nail down the requirements for counselors and how they compare to what HLA does.
::hatter:: ::soapbox::
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Ooooh, sorry, wrong answer, Who. You have been posting in the HLA forum long before the thread about Danielle Howard started. Try again.
TheWho:
--- Quote --- so what you are saying is that there is a loophole which hla exploited.
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No, they are not loop holes it is very well defined and laid out. If you get a job working for someone else they can give you any type of title they please i.e. guidance counselor, career counselor, senior counselor, junior counselor. The higher your degree the more money you make. This is the same as other professions. In Engineering there are tons of job titles to suit individual companies needs i.e. Quality engineer, production engineer etc.
But if you want to take you services directly to the public, in the state of Georgia (as in most states), you need to be licensed because you don’t have a corporation or oversight. This is the intention of the licensing. There are many positions within State and private sector which require their people to be licensed but its primary intent is for those individuals who want to come into Georgia and hang a sign up and start practicing business.
HLA doesn’t advertise that all their counselors have a professional license. I don’t understand why they would do that or how that would help. They indicate that their people have a certain education level and if they have a back ground in their field of study or not like any other business would. How many companies place a list of their employees’ names and educational back grounds out for everyone to see. This is very open and I don’t see how they can be more open and forthcoming than this.
::hatter::
HLA Truth:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---If they are under the weekly supervision of a Licensed Therapist then they are okay with the state. Call the Secretary of State to make sure if you want to. If it weren't true, this would be the first thing ORS would have hit them with. They would not have even gotten a provisional license.
There is plenty to jump on HLA about, this isn't one of them. The one thing you can get them for in this area is hiring people with Master's Degrees outside of the field of counseling and passing them off as counselors. That has happened pretty regularly.
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How many can a licensed therapist supervise?
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To be honest, I don't know if there is a limit or not to the number someone can supervise. I do know that there are some private therapists whose entire practice is devoted to supervising non-licensed. Good question though.
TheWho:
Do you know of any other programs which requires all their counselors to be licensed?
I dont think this is standard at least it is not in other industries that I know of.
::hatter::
Deborah:
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--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---If they are under the weekly supervision of a Licensed Therapist then they are okay with the state. Call the Secretary of State to make sure if you want to. If it weren't true, this would be the first thing ORS would have hit them with. They would not have even gotten a provisional license.
There is plenty to jump on HLA about, this isn't one of them. The one thing you can get them for in this area is hiring people with Master's Degrees outside of the field of counseling and passing them off as counselors. That has happened pretty regularly.
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How many can a licensed therapist supervise?
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To be honest, I don't know if there is a limit or not to the number someone can supervise. I do know that there are some private therapists whose entire practice is devoted to supervising non-licensed. Good question though.
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http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 121#245121
Leonard Buccellato, Ph.D., the founder and owner of Hidden Lake has been a Licensed Psychologist in the state of Georgia since 1975. Dr. Buccellato and the Associate Directors of Counseling supervise and oversee all counseling activities at Hidden Lake Academy.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 499#218499
In addition to the Realizations, Counselors lead other psycho educational peer group sessions in the mornings and evenings throughout the week.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 201#218201
(b) The internship/SWE supervisor shall not take primary supervisory responsibility for more than three interns or fellows concurrently without Board approval.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 031#200031
I am the ex-counselor that has been posting. I whole heartedly agree that forcing a kid to detail the accounts of her rape is wrong and offers no benefit to the child. I am amazed if a child was forced to do this. I also agree that the counselors at HLA need to be better trained. I do not think the have to all be licensed, because you have to be in the field for three years before you get your license. What does need to happen is that HLA needs to have several licensed staff that are giving direct day to day supervision of the non-licensed staff. Currently, HLA has one person doing the supervision of all their counselors. That is an impossible situation and a detriment to the kids. Dr. Buccellato will never put forth the money that it would take to properly supervise all of the counselors at HLA.
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